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MarieCeleste
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7 May 2013 09:15 |
There is this one, though:
Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920 Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920
Child's Given Name: Ragnar Nikoland (Nikolaus?) Birth Date: 28 sep 1897 Birth Place: Helsingborgs stadsförsamling, Malmöhus (Skåne) Father: Nils Håkansson Lind Father Birth Date: 26 okt 1862 (26 Oct 1862) Mother: Kristina Mattisdotter Mother Birth Date: 27 apr 1859 Mother Age: 38 GID Number: 100012.40.20800 Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1732 Volume: HIAA:1192
Could Kristina Mattisdotter translate to Christina Mattisson? The birthplace also appears to match Hennig.
Before the father's name it says "jornarb", might be occupation.
They lived 13 Längvinkeln
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7 May 2013 09:05 |
I have a feeling that the Ragnar E Lind that we found above, born 20 July 1911, may not be the right one:
Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920 Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920
Child's Given Name: Erik Ragnar Birth Date: 20 jul 1911 Birth Place: Hova, Skaraborg (Västra Götaland) Father: Johan Oskar Lind Father Birth Date: 29 mar 1879 Mother: Beda Vilhelmina Olofsdotter Mother Birth Date: 16 maj 1879 (16 May 1879) Mother Age: 32 GID Number: 796.44.9400 Roll/Fiche Number: CK1854 Volume: SCB
Even though it's in Swedish the parents' names bear no resemblance to what Susanne has.
(This is from Ancestry)
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MarieCeleste
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7 May 2013 08:48 |
Alviegal posted an emigration record above - there is also this one:
Emigranten Populär, 1783-1951 Swedish Emigration Records, 1783-1951 Name: Ragnar E Lind Birth Year: abt 1911 Gender: Man (Male) Place of Origin: Hova Västra Götaland Län, Sverige Destination: Milwaukee Record Date: 26 apr 1930 Port of Departure: Göteborg Database Name: EmiHamn Occupation/Title: Jordarb Archive Call Number: 128:845:39396 Principal Person: Lind Ragnar E
The occupation on Alviegal's post can probably be taken as machinist, I've no idea what "jordarb" is on this one, neither has google translate.
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MarieCeleste
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7 May 2013 08:46 |
To be honest Susanne - I don't know much about Swedish research so can only suggest sites like FamilySearch, someone who knows more may have a better idea. If you google Swedish Genealogy there are all sorts of sites come up.
I'll still keep looking around in case anything useful turns up.
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Susanne
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7 May 2013 06:39 |
Thank you so much ladies for everything i am a bit overwhelmed with what you ladies have found on this Lind family. any advice what to do next? i have tried to look at swedish sites for this family not much and a lot written in swedish. Nothing on Nils or a Christina Lind Eric knows nothing about his grandparents his dad was old and didnt want to talk about his family as the three boys all split up in sweden the parents didnt want to know the children as the story goes they were mixing with royalty and given titles who knows. Sue
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6 May 2013 14:23 |
MC looks like your Ragnar was married.
California, Marriage Index, 1960-1985 about Ragner E Lind Name: Ragner E Lind Age: 53 Est. Birth: abt 1912 Spouse Name: Lucille Oliver Spouse Age: 57 Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1908 Date: 20 Jan 1965 Location: Los Angeles
Emigranten Populär, 1783-1951 Swedish Emigration Records, 1783-1951 about Ragnar E Lind Name: Ragnar E Lind Birth Year: abt 1911 Gender: Man (Male) Place of Origin: Amerika Destination: New York New York Record Date: 10 sep 1935 Port of Departure: Göteborg Database Name: EmiHamn Occupation/Title: Maskinist Archive Call Number: 134:803:83585B Principal Person: Lind Ragnar E
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6 May 2013 14:19 |
Not convinced Ragnar b 1903 is the correct person. I think this is probably him as well but there is also a Gustaf Lind 48, from Sweden who is on the ship . Could be his father? I think this is the record that susanne has found though from ellisisland.
First Name: Ragnar Last Name: Lind Ethnicity: Sweden, Swedish Last Place of Residence: Date of Arrival: Feb 19, 1918 Age at Arrival: 15y Gender: M Marital Status: Ship of Travel: Rowena Port of Departure: Buenos Aires Manifest Line Number: 0020
Possible birth?
Child's Given Name: Gustaf Ragnar Birth Date: 19 jun 1902 Birth Place: Gillberga, Värmland Father: Gustaf Lind Father Birth Date: 8 okt 1869 (8 Oct 1869) Mother: Fredrika Elvira Berg Mother Birth Date: 1 mar 1873 Mother Age: 29 GID Number: 483.60.3200 Roll/Fiche Number: CK0973 Volume: SCB
Still sailing with 52 year old Gustaf, who is a steward.
Name: Gustaf Ragnar Lind, wiper Arrival Date: 26 Mar 1923 Birth Date: abt 1903 Age: 20 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: American Port of Departure: Santa Fe Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Ossining
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6 May 2013 14:06 |
There is this Californian death for a Ragnar Lind but the age doesn't fit with the cabin boy above:
Social Security Death Index
Name: Ragnar E. Lind SSN: 387-09-8832 Last Residence: 90043 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America Born: 20 Jul 1911 Died: 26 Jun 1998 State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951) ....................................................................................................................
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U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 Name: Ragnar E Lind Birth Date: 20 Jul 1911 Address: 6118 Overhill Dr, Los Angeles, CA, 90043-3549
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Susanne
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6 May 2013 13:58 |
Wow thank you Alviegal yes that must be hennings wife known as tina is their anyway of finding more about them eric knows they didnt have children and he knows his uncle ragnor died in california seems to think he was a heavy drinker and never married,thank you all so much for the time you put into helping us so appreciated it is so nice for eric to even know this much about his family.susanne
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alviegal
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6 May 2013 12:06 |
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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Ragnor Lind Name: Ragnor Lind Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1918 Birth Date: abt 1903 Age: 15 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian Port of Departure: Cananooa,cub Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Annetta
He was a galley boy.
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alviegal
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6 May 2013 11:57 |
Social Security Death Index about Henning Lind Name: Henning Lind SSN: 261-28-8484 Last Residence: 11209 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America Born: 31 Jul 1895 Died: Feb 1975 State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (Before 1951)
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Henning Lind Name: Henning Lind Birth Date: 31 Jul 1895 Birth Place: Sweden Residence: City Island Race: White
This can be viewed on https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3J4-36R
Mrs Jaertina Lind was the person who would know his address. Could this be Tina?
Henning Gottfrid Lind, "New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924" Given Name: Henning Gottfrid Surname: Lind Last Place of Residence: Event Date: 05 Oct 1918 Age: 23y Nationality: Swede, Skendinaves Departure Port: Gothenburg Arrival Port: New York Gender: Male Marital Status: Citizenship Status: Ship Name: Nordland
From https://www.familysearch.org
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alviegal
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6 May 2013 11:47 |
He was a seaman, last residence was in N.S, town/city was Bkn?? His nearest relative or friend in country he came from was at 353 Clinton Street, NY.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Henning G Lind Name: Henning G Lind Arrival Date: 26 Sep 1923 Birth Date: abt 1895 Birth Location: Sweden Birth Location Other: holsingbory Age: 28 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian Port of Departure: Gothenburg Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Westphalia
There are a few of these records (as he was a seaman).
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Henning Lind Name: Henning Lind Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1942 Birth Date: abt 1895 (31 July 1895) Birth Location: Sweden Birth Location Other: Helsingborg, Sweden Age: 47 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Gourock, Scotland Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Queen Mary
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Susanne
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6 May 2013 10:44 |
hi Marie Celeste Thank you so much that Henning the first one i am thrillied i am trying to help my friends husband he was the son of Carl E Lind another brother but he knows nothing hardly of his family only they came from Sweden and demark he knew of his uncle Henning and Ragnor Lind but his dad was very old when he was born, his dad was not natauralised. all brothers came to Amercia and Died Henning new York and he thinks Ragnor died California and his dad died California. The three boys parents were drinkers and all the boys were fostered out all over the place. their dad Nils was born Landskeona Sweden. Ive sat for days trying to find something. thank you so much just on henning lovely, Sue PS All brothers ay sea.
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6 May 2013 09:55 |
Of the two naturalisation records, the first seems much more likely, especially as Susanne said the brothers were connected with the sea.
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6 May 2013 09:42 |
This is the man who lived Chicago
U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Henning Waldemar Lind Birth Date: 1 Jul 1896 Birth Place: Sweden Age at event: 45 Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa Date of Action: 8 Jun 1942
There's not as much information on this record about arrival or birthplace.
He lived 1340 Clarendon Avenue, Chicago.
His witnesses: Helen Martin of 5009 W29th Street, Cicero, Illinnois John Serigon of 2153 North Avenue
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6 May 2013 09:13 |
It looks like there were two Swedish men called Henning Lind in the USA, both born 1895/1896 - one living in Illinnois and one in New York.
This is the New York one:
Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974
Name: Henning Gottfrid Lind Age: 29 Birth Date: 31 Jul 1895 - born in Helsingborg. Arrival Date: 1918 Naturalization Date: 27 Jan 1925 State: New York Court Type: District Court Court Location: Eastern District, New York Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
He was a seaman and lived 353 Clinton street, Brooklyn.
He arrived in US 31 July 1918 on the Nordland, departed from Gothenburg.
His referees were: Joseph Harris, a shipping agent of 1484 Hoe Avenue, Bronx Hulda Vesterburg, a housewife of 55 Strong Place, Brooklyn
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Susanne
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6 May 2013 00:40 |
THANK YOU TO YOUR REPLYS, WE FOUND HENNING DIED IN 1975 IN BROOKLYN NEW YORK HE DID MARRY BUT NO CHILDREN, RAGNOR LIND NEVER MARRIED ALL THREE BROTHERS INVOLVED IN THE SEA. WE FOUND A SMALL BOOK WITH THEIR PARENTS NAMES NILS LIND BORN LANDSKONA CHRISTINA mATHISON BORN URSHILT BOTH SWEDEN. IF ANYBODY COULD HELP OR A WEBSITE WE COULD LOOK AT. tHANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP. SUE
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5 May 2013 07:24 |
1940 United States Federal Census about Henning Lind Name: Henning Lind Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Sweden Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Chicago, Cook, Illinois View Map Street: Concord Place House Number: 2130 Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Residence in 1935: Same Place Citizenship: Having first papers Sheet Number: 3A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 70 Occupation: Tool And Die Maker House Owned or Rented: Rented Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 27.50 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 44 Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work Weeks Worked in 1939: 42 Income: 1800 Income Other Sources: No Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henning Lind 44 Josephine Lind 41 Birthplace: Poland Henning Lind 12 Elsie Lind 10 John Huler 22 Stepson, Indiana Margaret Huler 21 Stepdaughter, Indiana
1930 United States Federal Census about Henning Lind Name: Henning Lind Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1896 Birthplace: Sweden Race: White Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois View Map Marital Status: Married Immigration Year: 1905 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Josephine Lind Father's Birthplace: Sweden Mother's Birthplace: Sweden Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henning Lind 34 Josephine Lind 31 John Lind 13 Margaruite Lind 11 Henning Lind 3 Elsie Lind 0 [9/12] Helen Marciniak 21 Relation to Head of House: Boarder Father's Birthplace: Poland Mother's Birthplace: Poland
There are these two births, none with a mother called Christina though.
Child's Given Name: Henning William Carl Birth Date: 3 dec 1896 Birth Place: Sundsvall, Västernorrland Father: Carl Fritiof Lind Father Birth Date: 28 nov 1853 Mother: Anna Amalia Olsson Mother Birth Date: 15 feb 1865 Mother Age: 31 GID Number: 100022.104.14200 Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1804 Volume: HIAA:1175
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Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920 Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920 about Henning Valdemar Child's Given Name: Henning Valdemar Birth Date: 1 jul 1896 Birth Place: Örebro, Örebro Father: Gustaf Lind Father Birth Date: 16 jan 1848 Mother: Josefina Gustafva Lindqvist Mother Birth Date: 15 nov 1853 Mother Age: 43 GID Number: 100018.9.24500 Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1775 Volume: HIAA:1171
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5 May 2013 07:17 |
What is your direct connection to this family so we know where to start from? Is the spelling Ragner or Rangnor? Have you looked to see if anyone on here or on Mundia have anyone of the family in their trees?
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Susanne
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5 May 2013 05:42 |
TRYING TO FIND ANYTHING ON ABOVE FAMILY IT WAS A VERY BROKEN FAMILY THREE SONS FOSTERED OUT WE KNOW CARL LIND ENDED UP IN SWEDEN. WE FOUND ALL THREE SONS ON ELLIS ISLAND WEBSITE TWO FRO LIVERPOOL TO NEW YORK AND OTHER FROM SOUTH AMERCIA. HENNING LIND STAYED IN BROOKLYN. RAGNER WE THINK ENDED UP IN CALIFORNIA MARRIED A TINA? AND CARL ENGER LIND WE KNOW HE ENDED IN CALIFORNIA WE KNOW ABOUT HIM. WE SEEM TO THINK THE MOTHER WAS CHRISTINNA MATHEWSON OR SIMILIAR TO THAT SPELLING CAME FROM SWEDEN. I FOUND A SOCIAL SECURITY INDEX FOR HENNING BUT NOT FOR RANGNOR ALL SEEM TO BE BORN EARLY 1900. ANYBODY SUGGEST TRACING ANYMORE ON THIS FAMILY OR HOW TO.THANKS SUE
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