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Lesley Report 11 May 2013 13:16
Hello Susanne is it information on Carl's brothers you are looking for?

From Family Search

Name: Henning Lind
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Chicago (Districts 1001-1250), Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: Sweden
Birth Year (Estimated): 1896
Immigration Year: 1905
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden
District: 1167
Household ID: 477
Sheet Number and Letter: 26B
Line Number: 69
Affiliate Publication Number: T626, roll 466
GS Film number: 2340201
Digital Folder Number: 4584267
Image Number: 00651
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Henning Lind M 34 Sweden
Wife Josephine Lind F 31 Poland
Son John Lind M 13 Indiana
Daughter Margaruite Lind F 11 Indiana
Son Henning Lind M 3 Illinois
Daughter Elsie Lind F 0 Indiana
Boarder Helen Marciniak F 21 Illinois

Given Name: Henning
Middle Name:
Surname: Lind
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 31 July 1895
Social Security Number: 261-28-8484
State: Florida
Last Place of Residence: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Previous Residence Postal Code: 11209
Event Date: February 1975
Age: 80

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Hi there everybody, wow you ladies are just great. i will have to ask eric tomorrow on his dad and mum. all i know he was Carl Ejene arrived 1918 through ellis island to New York. he was a sailor to and travelled the world know he had a daughter Margaret not sure sweden or denmark. cant remember his mums name she married twice think her last name Bushyfrom 2nd husband she came from rochester new york. they moved to San Fransico Carl left the sea when Eric born1954. His mum died first and Carl died later. they are both buried. i will find more tomorrow. Thanks all again. I believe kristina Modditter as you have named Hennings mum came from Urshilt district of Sweden. also Eric told me Ragner was a drinker and a lot in hospital and died a pauper in new york somewhere.. Sue

Susanne, so that we can try to tie Carl Ejene to Ragnor and Henning, can you tell us any more about him? His occupation, wife, date of birth - anything like that.

We might be able to find some records that pull everything together.

This must be the 1910 that you refer to:

Data on domicile:
Census year: 1910
Municipality: Ålvundeid
Municipality number: 1562
Name of domicile: Mo (gaard)
Number of persons in this domicile: 7

Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Steinar I. Mo hf g Gårdbruger 26.04.1870 t
Sigrid L. Mo hm g Gårdmandskone 26.12.1874 t
Ivar S. Mo s ug Søn 27.09.1907 t
Leiv S. Mo s ug Søn 12.06.1909 t
Lars S. Mo fl Føderaadsmand 15.04.1833 Øksendalen
>>>Gjertine Stokke tj ug Tjenestepige 03.09.1892 Valsøfjorden
Anna M. Ulvund tj ug Tjenestepige 30.11.1897 Stangvik

I don't know if we can be sure that this is the same person. The birthdate differs from that on the naturalisation (22 Jul 1897). I can't find Valsøfjorden on a map to see if it's near Kristiansund.

Her status of "tj" means she was a servant to the family, marital status "ug" means she was single and "Tjenestepige" is a maid.

She was a shopkeeper when she went to US, but that was 13 years later.

On Gjertine's 1923 arrival in the US (posted above) she states her father was Iver and she was going to her cousin Albert Aspen in Brooklyn. Here they all are together on the Norwegian 1900 census:

Data on domicile:
Census year: 1900
Municipality: Kristiansund
Municipality number: 1503
Street name:
Street number: 521
City district:
House owner:
Number of flats: 2
Number of persons in this domicile: 9

Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
>Iver Stokke hf g Bødkersvend 1872 Kristiansund Rom >>Her father
Gyda Stokke hm g Hustru 1872 Kristiansund Rom
Inga Stokke d ug Datter 1894 Kristiansund Rom
Ragnar Stokke s ug Søn 1895 Kristiansund Rom
>Gjertine Stokke d ug Datter 1897 Kristiansund Rom >>our girl
Gustav Stokke s ug Søn 1900.03.24 Kristiansund Rom
Rikard Pedersen hf e Bødkersvend 1836 Bjørnør
Regine Pedersen d ug Husbestyrerinde 1868 Kristiansund Rom
>Albert Aspen Pleiesøn ug Pleiesøn 1888 Kristiansund Rom >>the cousin

(Her birthplace on this also ties in with her naturalisation papers which I've sent you by pm)

From new thread:

"SINCE ALL YOU GOOD FOLK HAVE HELPED ME ON HENNING LIND I HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR A LONG TIME OMN HIS WIFE AND FOUND SPELLING DIFFREENT TO WHATS ON HENNINGS WORLD WAR DRAFT. IT IS GJERTINE MAIDEN NAME STOKKE BORN 22-7- 1897 FOUND A 1910 NORWAY CENCUS SAYS HER BIRTH IS 3-9-1892 SHE WAS BORN VALSOFJORDON HER OCCUPATION WAS A TJENSTEPIGE DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SHE CAME TO NEW YORK ON 24-10-1923 SHIP FREERICK FROM CHRISTINIA NORWAY..
SHE WAS MARRIED DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 9-3-1934 TO HENNING LIND. HENNING DIED NEW YORK 1975 AND GJERTINE DIED NOVEMBER 1978 SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA. I KNOW SHE WAS NATURALISED BUT DONT KNOW HOW TO GET THAT. IF ANYONE COULD ADD ANY MORE ABOUT GJERTINE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. SUE"

(I've copied this over here as some further info relates to what has been posted above).

Hello Susanne - the birth details we've posted for Henning and Ragnor give their parent's details.

I'm afraid I don't know anything about ordering US death certificates, or what info is on them, but someone else on here might.

Thank you all to helped dont know where to go i suggested to Eric it may pay for him to send for hennings death certicate would that give his parents infornatin his dad hennings brother has parents unknown on his death certificate. i have tried to find something on Hennings wife Jaertina Lind . Eric remembers he thinks meeting her once after Hennings death she moved to California from new York.
thank you Sue

Hi Susanne, yes there does seem to be 2 each of Henning and Ragnor but if you read carefully what has been posted it looks like we've positively identified the ones which are yours.

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE HELP ON THIS SWEDISH LIND FAMILY. THEIR SEEMS TO BE TWO HENNING LINDS AMD MAYBE MORE THAN ONE RAGNOR.ERICS DAD CARL EJENE LIND HE SAILED AROUND THE WORLD AND CAME HOME FROM THE SEA WHEN ERIC BORN HE DIED 1974 IN SAN FRANSICO ERIC SEEMS TO REMEMBER I THINK A LETTER FROM RAGNOR WHO WAS A DRINKER WROTE A LETTER FROM HIS HOSPITAL BED MAKING PEACE WITH HIS BROTHER.BEFORE HE DIED, dINT REALLY KNOW WHERE TO GO NOW BUT THANKS. SUE

Their marriage:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V642-JMC

Gjertine Stokke, "District of Columbia Marriages, 1811-1950"

Name: Henning Lind
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 09 Mar 1934
Event Place: District of Columbia, United States
Age: 39
Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Spouse's Name: Gjertine Stokke
Spouse's Age: 36
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1898

GS Film number: 2293329
Digital Folder Number: 4661499
Image Number: 00522

First Name: Gjertine
Last Name: Stokke
Ethnicity: Norway, Scandinavian
Last Place of Residence: Kr.sund, Norway
Date of Arrival: Oct 24, 1923
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Frederik VIII
Port of Departure: Christiania
Manifest Line Number: 0007

You can view this on ellisisland.

She was a shopkeeper, father was Iver Stokke, Inlandet, Kr.sund N. She was going to A cousin, Albert Aspen, 111 Pioner Street, Brooklyn.

New York, Naturalization Records, 1897-1944 about Gjertine Lind
Name: Gjertine Lind
[Gjertine Stokke]
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1897
Birth Place: Norway
Arrival Year: 1923
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Event Date: 24 Oct 1923
Spouse's Name: Henning

She was born in Kristiansund, North. Married 9 Mar 1934. Henning was born in Helsingborg, Sweden on 31 July 1895.
She entered the US on 24 Oct 1923 on board SS Frederick VIII.




New York, Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989 about Gjertine Lind
Name: Gjertine Lind
Birth Date: abt 1898
Age: 44
Naturalization Date: 14 Jan 1942
Residence: City Island, Bronx, ??
Title and Location of Court: New York Southern District


Residing at 65 Early Street



California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Gjertine Lind
Name: Gjertine Lind
Social Security #: 070129722
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1897
Birth Place: Other Country
Death Date: 14 Nov 1978
Death Place: San Diego



New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Gjertine Lind
Name: Gjertine Lind
Arrival Date: 29 Nov 1948
Birth Date: abt 1897
Birth Location: Norway
Age: 51
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Oslo, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord

She lived at 65 Early Street, City Island, NY

You as well Maureen! That looks good as he is a seamn on a private yacht. The wife name looks to be Gjertinas and she is 42 and from Norway.

I think this is Henning and wife in 1940:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQLM-CJ3

Great finds,MC and Liz!!!


Maureen

Well done MarieCeleste. Another possible crew list for him.


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Ragnar Nicolaus Lindh
Name: Ragnar Nicolaus Lindh
Arrival Date: 12 Feb 1942
Birth Date: abt 1897
Birth Location: Sweden
Birth Location Other: Helsingborg, Sweden
Age: 44 Years 5 Months
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Suez, Egypt
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Buchanan

In fact it says he was a passenger. Occupation is sailor and there is a stamp above his name reading either In or W Hospital Discharged.

What a shame this doesn't give the death date:

Sverige, födelseuppgifter för personer som avled mellan 1901 och 2006
Sweden, Births from the Swedish Death Index, 1901-2006

Name: Nils Håkansson Lind
Birth Date: 26 okt 1862 (26 Oct 1862)
Birth Place: Örja, Malmöhus (Skåne), Sverige (Sweden)

I think this is Ragnar, just listed as crew:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ragnar Lind
Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1928
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 31
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Port of Departure: New York, New York
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Charles D Stanford

Here's Henning:

Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920
Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920

Child's Given Name: Henning Gottfrid
Birth Date: 31 jul 1895
Birth Place: Annelöv, Malmöhus (Skåne)
Father: Nils Håkansson
Father Birth Date: 26 okt 1862 (26 Oct 1862)
Mother: Christina Mattisdotter
Mother Birth Date: 27 jan 1859
Mother Age: 36
GID Number: 100012.121.22200
Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1724
Volume: HIAA:1131

(Birthdate matches the naturalisation papers)