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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2013 13:32 |
There are some helpful tips on Irish ancestry here.
http://www.facebook.com/GenealogyResearchAssistant
The problem is you do not know where in Ireland and you have common names.
I think your next step is to buy some certifcates.
I would suggest one of the later children and one of the earlier children before Bridget find out mothers name. The marriage cert also would help.
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Sidami
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18 Apr 2013 13:20 |
Thankyou LadyKira for all your help is it easy to trace Irish ancestors is it a free site?
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18 Apr 2013 12:43 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Martin Robinson Name: Martin Robinson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1901 Age at Death: 63 Registration district: Sculcoates Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 82
I think they came to England after 1851.
None of the census give us a place of origin in Ireland.
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18 Apr 2013 12:34 |
1861 t Address: 1, Marys Square, Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull ROBSON, Martin Head Married M 24 1837 Dock Labourer Ireland ROBSON, Bridget Wife Married F 24 1837 Ireland ROBSON, Sim Son M 7 1854 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire ROBSON, James Son M 5 1856 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire ROBSON, Martin Son M 3 1858 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire ROBSON, Mary Ann Daughter F 3 1858 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2013 12:24 |
They were maybe not married till
Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%) Convey Bridget Sculcoates 9d 266 Robinson Martin Sculcoates 9d 266
so Martin was possibly married before to produce ROBINSON, Timothy Son M 16 1855 Yorkshire ROBINSON, James Son M 14 1857 Yorkshire ROBINSON, Martin Son M 12 1859 Yorkshire ROBINSON, Mary A Daughter F 12 1859 Yorkshire
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2013 12:15 |
1871 Glass House Row, Sutton, Hull ROBINSON, Martin Head M 37 1834 Ireland ROBINSON, Bridget Wife F 35 1836 Ireland ROBINSON, Timothy Son M 16 1855 Yorkshire ROBINSON, James Son M 14 1857 Yorkshire ROBINSON, Martin Son M 12 1859 Yorkshire ROBINSON, Mary A Daughter F 12 1859 Yorkshire ROBINSON, Ellen Daughter F 9 1862 Yorkshire ROBINSON, Annie Daughter F 7 1864 Yorkshire ROBINSON, George Son M 5 1866 Yorkshire ROBINSON, John W Son M 2 1869 Yorkshire
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18 Apr 2013 12:09 |
1881 Address: 40, Glasshouse Row, Sutton And Stoneferry ROBINSON, Martin Head Married M 45 1836 Labourer In Cement Works Ireland ROBINSON, Bridget Wife Married F 44 1837 Ireland CASTERTON, Mary Ann Daughter Married F 22 1859 Hull ROBINSON, Martin Son Single M 22 1859 Oil Mil Man Hull ROBINSON, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1864 Servant Domestic Hull ROBINSON, George Son Single M 14 1867 Labourer Hull ROBINSON, John W Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Hull ROBINSON, Margaret Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Hull ROBINSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1874 Hull CASTERTON, Joseph Grand Son Single M 2 1879 Hull
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18 Apr 2013 12:06 |
1891 Address: 40, Glass House Row, Sutton With Stoneferry, Hull, Kingston Upon Hull ROBINSON, Martin Head Married M 53 1838 Cement Worker Ireland ROBINSON, Bridget Wife Married F 55 1836 Ireland ROBINSON, Martin Son Single M 32 1859 Cement Worker Hull, Yorkshire ROBINSON, George Son Single M 24 1867 Oil Miller Hull, Yorkshire ROBINSON, John W Son Single M 22 1869 Oil Miller Hull, Yorkshire ROBINSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 17 1874 Black Lead Packer Hull, Yorkshire
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18 Apr 2013 12:05 |
Er you have just identified Jane and her parents but you know about her great grand parents?
Take it one step at a time and cross check everything.
There are several possibilities for Harry so you will need the certificate to confirm his parents.
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Sidami
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18 Apr 2013 11:53 |
Oh my good ness just left the boards for a short while and you come up with all this information how can I that you all you are brill found it at last, my friend said that Jane's (born 1904) gt grandad maybe came from Ireland possible with a name of Martin.How easy is it to trace Irish information is it like Scotland pay as you go
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2013 11:50 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Jane Elizabeth Robinson Name: Jane Elizabeth Robinson Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904 Registration district: Sculcoates Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 127
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18 Apr 2013 11:41 |
1901 Address: 6, Stoneferry Hull English Row, Sculcoates, Stoneferry ROBINSON, Martin Head Married M 43 1858 Labourer Cement Work Nil Hull, Yorkshire ROBINSON, Jane E Wife Married F 33 1868 Nil Malton, Yorkshire ROBINSON, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 8 1893 Nil Hull, Yorkshire ROBINSON, Geo Willian Son Single M 4 1897 Nil Hull, Yorkshire ROBINSON, Margreate E Daughter Single F 1 1900 Nil Hull, Yorkshire
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Dea
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18 Apr 2013 11:39 |
Her marriage:
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1929 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROBINSON Jane E ROBINSON Harry St Marks Hull HMK/9/282
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18 Apr 2013 11:39 |
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Jane Elizabeth Robinson Name: Jane Elizabeth Robinson Birth Date: 11 Jan 1904 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1972 Age at Death: 68 Registration district: Holderness Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 2a Page: 183 Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clarke Sarah E Hardy Sculcoates 9d 359 Hardy William H Clarke Sculcoates 9d 359 Robinson Jane E Robinson Sculcoates 9d 359
spouse missing
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Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crosby Doris Gravill Sculcoates 9d 389 Gravill William S Crosby Sculcoates 9d 389 Hamlyn Annie K Hawley Sculcoates 9d 389 Hawley Arthur Hamlyn Sculcoates 9d 389 >>>>>>>>>Robinson Harry Robinson Sculcoates 9d 389
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2013 11:36 |
FMP gives a little more info Martin had Bright's disease. they had been married 19 years and 6 children. 1 child had died.
1911 Address: 7 Maxwell Terrace Maxwell St Hull ROBINSON, Martin Head Married M 52 1859 Invalid Yorks Hull ROBINSON, George William Son Single M 14 1897 Sawmill Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Jane Elizabeth Wife Married19 years F 42 1869 Yorks Molton ROBINSON, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 18 1893 Sugar Factory Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Margaret Ellen Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Jane Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Lora Daughter Single F 1 1910 Yorks Hull
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18 Apr 2013 11:29 |
Great minds Dea. We posted simultaneously.
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18 Apr 2013 11:27 |
1911 England Census about Jane Elizabeth Robinson Name: Jane Elizabeth Robinson Age in 1911: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Sculcoates County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street Address: 7 Maxwell Terr Maxwell St Stoneferry Rd Marital Status: Single Occupation: School Registration district: Sculcoates Registration District Number: 521 Sub-registration district: Southcoates ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 28578 Household Members: Name Age James Ashton Harrison 37 Jane Harrison 36 Fanny Elizabeth Harrison 12 Ethel Harrison 11 George Harrison 9 Harriet Harrison 7 Minnie Harrison 3 Jane Harrison 1 Martin Robinson 52 George William Robinson 14 Jane Elizabeth Robinson 42 Mary Ann Robinson 18 Margaret Ellen Robinson 11 Jane Elizabeth Robinson 7 Lora Robinson 1
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Dea
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18 Apr 2013 11:27 |
I am looking at this family on 1911 ???
1911 census transcription details for: 7 Maxwell Terrace Maxwell St Hull Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN28578 RG78PN1643 RD521 SD1 ED1 SN289 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Southcoates Parish: Sculcoates Enum. District: 1 Address: 7 Maxwell Terrace Maxwell St Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROBINSON, Martin Head Married M 52 1859 Invalid Yorks Hull ROBINSON, George William Son Single M 14 1897 Sawmill Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Jane Elizabeth Wife Married 19 years F 42 1869 Yorks Molton ROBINSON, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 18 1893 Sugar Factory Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Margaret Ellen Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Jane Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Yorks Hull ROBINSON, Lora Daughter Single F 1 1910 Yorks Hull
Have to go out soon so will work on it again when I get back.
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18 Apr 2013 11:21 |
Jane Elizabeth Nee Robinson died 16.10.72 age 68
So Jane was born in 1904?
We have been looking for a marriage for her in that year?
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Sidami
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18 Apr 2013 10:22 |
Good morning all I wasnt a able to get back on Genes last night. The info I have is and this is from a friend who wants me to try and trace their family Robert Leslie Watkinson ( this is the line I am tracing born in Hull. Now he tells me that his mother was called Vera Robinson, her parents were Harry Robinson died 23.5.1969 age 61 he had a sister not sure on the name though? Jane Elizabeth Nee Robinson died 16.10.72 age 68 both died Hull dist, Jane had 2 sisters that they knew of Laura she died 15.12.81 aged 72 she married Albert Salmon and then there was Nellie who married John Lounsborough This is where I get the Robinson married Robinson, sorry this is such a blanket search thankyou al for your time on this last night.
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