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the occupation of the William Smith who married Emma Crowe was
TAILOR as was both of their father's

have you got them on any other census records?

oooops...just reading my notes...and found that William Smith..

SMITH, William Head Married M 52 1859 Gas Fitter City EC VIEW ...his father is James...and I understand that he was ffrom Scotland...just wondering if the family were in Scotland in 1901 census...I guess anything is worth a try...lol

Hi. thank you so much for trying...I have Freds Birth cert...
Born Shoreditch Infirmary Hoxton Road Haggerston
3 New Inn Yard, Shoreditch, Haggerston (1893)
23, Candy St, Bow E3 (1915-at time of marraige)

His mother and fathers marraige cert...
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1877
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Arthur Crowe
Spouse Father Name: James Smith
CROWE Emma Bethnal Green 1c 494

Just cannot seem to find them in the 1901 census.....

this looks like the Smith family who are with the Ebbetts in 1901 -


1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 456
Folio: 62
Page: 10
Reg. District: Wandsworth
Sub District: Streatham
Parish: Streatham
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: St Alban
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 48, Thrale Road, Streatham, Balham
County: London

SMITH, William H Head Married M 32 1859 Lamplighter
Holborn, London
SMITH, Ellen Wife Married F 28 1863
Fincham, Norfolk
SMITH, Arthur W Son M 9 1882
King's Cross, London
SMITH, Sidney H Son M 7 1884
Mitcham, Surrey
SMITH, Lillian E M Daughter F 6 1885
Mitcham, Surrey
SMITH, Florence F Daughter F 2 1889
Streatham, Surrey

Name: William Henry Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Ellen Fisher
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Aug 1881
Parish: Dartmouth Park Hill St Peter
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Henry James Smith
Spouse Father Name: S?? Fisher (Stephen)
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Alexander Ebbetts
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Age: 32
Spouse Name: Mary Fisher
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Jul 1888
Parish: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Henry Ebbetts
Register Type: Parish Register

her father also Stephen Fisher

could be without wife

note Mary Ebbets born in Norfolk

EBBETTS, Alexander Head Married M 45 1856 House Painter
Paddington, London VIEW
EBBETTS, Mary Wife Married F 37 1864
Fincham, Norfolk VIEW
SMITH, William H Brother-In-Law Married M 42 1859 Gas-Fitter
Holborn, London VIEW
SMITH, Sidney H Nephew Single M 18 1883 Blacksmith
Mitcham, Surrey VIEW
SMITH, Lillian E Niece Single F 16 1885 Dressmaker
Mitcham, Surrey VIEW
SMITH, Florence F Niece Single F 13 1888
Streatham, London VIEW

Piece: 479

Folio: 104

Page: 15

Registration District: Wandsworth

Civil Parish: Streatham

Municipal Borough:

Address: 23, Ellison Road, Streatham

County: London

Not yet.

I have been focusing on finding E* Smith born 1857 =/- 2 born norfolk living in Hackney

I did some research on another family on this road
It is tiny.
I seem to remember there was a fair bit mistranscription around the address.
I will have another look.

I see on the 1891 census that 3 New Inn Yard is listed as a warehouse, with no occupants! Very strange.

Do you have the actualy birth certificate, with his mother's maiden name on?

Hi...no I can't find them anywhere either...?....I do have frederic Birth cert ...he was born at 3 New Inn Yard...but I am not able to trace them anywhere in the 1901 census....thank you ChrtinaS

I can't find find this family on any census other than the 1911. Have you found them on any other?

Found this, just to narrow the search done as much as possible. So, in 1893 they were living in Shoreditch.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Frederic John Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1893- Newing Yard, Shoreditch
Father's Name: William Smith - Gas fitter
Mother's Name: Emma Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney

Hi....this is the INFO i already have ...but would like to find this family in the 1901 census..but .thank you so much Reggie

Purely for INFO

1911 census

Person: SMITH, Emma Address: 67 Rippoth Road Bow E

SMITH, William Head Married M 52 1859 Gas Fitter City EC VIEW
SMITH, Emma Wife Married34 years F 54 1857 Nothing Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW
SMITH, James Son Single M 32 1879 Boots Work Clicker Hackney Wick VIEW
SMITH, Fred Son Single M 18 1893 Boot Work Clicker Hackney Wick VIEW

Hi. I have :1911 census: head of Household, age 52yrs, married 34yrs,Occupation: Gas Fitter,Own Account, Born: City EC, Living at 67 Rippoth Road Bow E (2 Rooms), Sigiture on Census was signed by William F Martin on behalf of Smith. Number of Children born alive 9, Children alive 5, children dead 4
His wife is mamed Emma age 54yrs (born Yarmouth Norfolk }.Also living with them is sons James and Frederick...would really like to find the family in the 1901 census...any help appreciated...Thank You Chris