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Sorry - Henry/Richard was born in 1853

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Still trying to sort this out. Seem to have a family that liked changing their names, is this possible? William Richard is also Richard William on his marriage certificate and on the WW1 medal rolls index. His father named as Henry Davies (Davis on his marriage record and some censuses) seems to also have been called Richard!! On the 1881 census I have a Sarah Davies born 1863 married to a Richard Davies born 1863, so the dates of birth match my research. They were living in Ross with Sarah Hazlewood who i presume to be Sarah Davies's mother. There is a marriage record in Ross for a Sarah Hazelwood and Henry Davis in 1878 which I think must be them. do you think Richard is Henry???

1911

brothers of William Davies

DAVIES, John Boarder Single M 20 1891 Ludy Windsor Colliery Ross
DAVIES, Charles Husband Married10 years M 29 1882 Mynachdy Colliery Ross
DAVIES, Florance Emily Wife Married F 29 1882 Bristol (Florence Emily Short)

RG number: RG14

Piece: 32267

Reference: RG14PN32267 RG78PN1851 RD589 SD2 ED21 SN21

Registration District: Pontypridd

Sub District: Llanwonno

Enumeration District: 21

Parish: Llanwonno

Address: 14 Clydach Terrace Ynysybwl Near Pontypridd

County: Glamorganshire

1911
DAVIS, Henry Head Married M 60 1851 Lodging House Keeper Herefordshire Ross
DAVIS, Sarah Wife Married30 years F 50 1861 Herefordshire Ross
DAVIS, Sarah Daughter Single F 16 1895 Herefordshire Ross



RG number: RG14

Piece: 15642

Reference: RG14PN15642 RG78PN952 RD336 SD2 ED2 SN15

Registration District: Ross

Sub District: Ross

Enumeration District: 2

Parish: Ross Urban

Address: 38 Over St Brookefield Hos. >> Brookfield House 38 Over Ross Street

County: Herefordshire


Over Ross Street intersects with Brampton Street

the Davies in Ross lived in Brampton Street (according to the death location of the Henry and SArah Davies on the tree in ancestry)

have found James D Waythe army record

hand written note at the top says BRAMPTON Street and his next of kin listed as living in Brampton Street

if William Richard is from ROss

there is a tree on ancestry, but no more details on him but there is on his parents

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/240210/person/-1058059980

Do you have the marriage certificae of Susan's second marriage?

Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
Davies Susan Waythe
Waythe James D Davies Ross 6a 986

Annie

Yes you are right about William Ricketts Davies, I did think it was him, but I was wrong.

Vicci

on the marriage certificate the grooms name is entered as Richard William but at the bottom where they sign it is signed William Richard so I presume that is why it is registered with both names.
Also thanks for the Fortt family census 1911. I also am trying to find out about a Florrie, looks like this could be her.
Also the Reeds and Newtons from Somerset are connected, I have quite a lot of info about them.
I'm just wondering if Richard was born in Ross, moved to Ynysybwl where he married Susan, their son William Gilbert was born in Ynysybwl, then they could have moved back to Ross where she remarried when Richard was killed in the war. Just got to find out if these war records are him

Thank you so much
Julie

Thanks so much everyone, will print these replies off and study them before I answer them later on. Just got home from work!!!

1911 possible
DAVIES, William Single ? 26 1885 Hereford Herefordshire VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 34997

Reference: RG14PN34997 RD641 SD22 ED17 SN9999

Registration District:

Sub District:

Enumeration District: 17

Parish:

Address: Conaught Barracks Colaba Bombay

County: Overseas military

75 Company Royal Garrison Artillery, 75TH COMPANY ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY, CONAUGHT BARRACKS, COLABA, BOMBAY, INDIA

Military details: Bombardier Royal Garrison Artillery
Cost

1891
DAVIS, Henry Head Married M 38 1853 Hawker
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1865
Brampton Abbotts, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, Charles Son M 7 1884
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, Alfred Son M 6 1885
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, William Son M 4 1887
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, George Son M 2 1889
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, Jonathan Son M 1 1890
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW
DAVIS, Jonathan Nephew Single M 24 1867 Hawker
Hereford VIEW
BULLOCK, Lolly Servant Single M 16 1875
Ross, Herefordshire VIEW

Piece: 2055

Folio: 96

Page: 1

Registration District: Ross

Civil Parish: Ross

Municipal Borough:

Address: Horns House, Greytree, Ross

County: Herefordshire

DAVIES, WILLIAM RICHARD

Rank:
Private
Service No:
8311
Date of Death:
25/09/1915
Regiment/Service:
South Wales Borderers

1st Bn.
Panel Reference
Panel 52.
Memorial
LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: William Richard Davies
Birth Place: Brampton, Ross, Hereford
Death Date: 25 Sep 1915
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Monmouth
Rank: Private
Regiment: South Wales Borderers
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Number: 8311
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

his service number 3869

found this!!
Name: William Richard Davies
Event Type: Military Service

Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Herefordshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1886

Name:William Richard DAVIES
Year of birth:1886
Place of birth:Brampton, Ross, Herefordshire
Regiment:Royal Monmouthshire Engineers

attested 1903
gives his address as 10 Clydach Terrace Ynysybwl
occupation collier
at Lady Windsor Pit


baptism
Name: William Richard Davis
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1886
Christening Place: ROSS, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Davis
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13951-5
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1040022
Reference ID: - 2:2TD7TDR

found the connection with Beatrice Fortt

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)

NEWTON Anne Langport 5c 756
Reed Gilbert Langport 5c 756

looks like Beatice Fortt and Susan Reed were cousins

Both entries have them marrying Susan Reed...very odd

Name: DAVIES, William R

Registration district: [?] Pontypridd

County: Glamorganshire

Year of registration: 1912

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name Reed

Volume no: [?] 11A

Page no: [?] 1115
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Name: REED, Susan

Registration district: Pontypridd

County: Glamorganshire

Year of registration: 1912

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name: Davies

Volume no: 11A

Page no: 1115

MarriageFinder™: Richard W Davies married Susan Reed [?]

Name: DAVIES, Richard W

Registration district: [?] Pontypridd

County: Glamorganshire

Year of registration: 1912

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name Reed

Volume no: [?] 11A

Page no: [?] 1115
View the original image

Name: REED, Susan

Registration district: Pontypridd

County: Glamorganshire

Year of registration: 1912

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name: Davies

Volume no: 11A

Page no: 1115

a possibility

1911

MARTIN, George Boarder Married11 years M 40 1871 Labrour Bow N Devon VIEW
PRITCHARD, William W Boarder Single M 25 1886 Underground Haulier Wilkesbury America VIEW
DAVIES, William Head Single M 25 1886 Coal Miner Hewer Aberdare Glam VIEW
DAVIES, Rebecca Sister F 41 1870 Aberdare Glam VIEW
MATHEWS, Benedicte B Boarder Widower M 46 1865 Underground Haulier Camborne Cornwall VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 32265

Reference: RG14PN32265 RG78PN1851 RD589 SD2 ED19 SN33

Registration District: Pontypridd

Sub District: Llanwonno

Enumeration District: 19

Parish: Llanwonno

Address: 26 Crawshay St Ynysybwl

County: Glamorganshire

there is a street Llys Gwil Ym at the end of Crawshay St

Hi Vicci, one of those marriages is to a William Ricketts Davies. I suspect this is the one that Julie was following and thought it was the wrong one. I think she has it on a tree on another internet site. William Ricketts was, in 1911, in a street very near to Archer Street. Maybe Julie can come back to us on this.