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thats interesting!
How you all find these things I have no idea as I oked on ancestry at the local library yesterday and found very little new.

I will see what I can find out about each of those Combers.

Just reading this from a different angle - how was Annie's surname known? Is it from family history, is it from actual birth certificates or is it taken from the children's middle names?

Had a look in the newspaper archives and there are numerous reviews in the 1880s of an Annie Verdon who was a serio-comic singer. Could be a complete coincidence with the name, there's no indication of age although an article from 1878 describes her as playing an old lady.

Annie's name has been confirmed by a few things.

Her son who died at the age of 2 was baptised Edward Verdon Chater.

But th real confirmation came from Emma's birth certificate which does state Annie Verdon as the mother.

I have come across lots of varients of Verdon such as Verden, Verdin and Verdun but not been able to find anything using these versions either,

Annie was either french or had french parents.
Maybe she was born in france which is why hard to find her?

1861 Bromley Bow Middlesex D12 > 2
Emma rogers 1837 Fenny compton
Rhoda rogers 1855 fenny copmton
Edward Chater 1836 Labourer lodger born Fenny compton

1858 Ann seal married John james Verdon he was born 1833 Edmonton
Ann seal born 1834 Enfield middlesex.

1861 Bromley Bow D24 . 46
John James Verdon 1833 a marriner
Anne Verdon 1835
John William Verdon born 1860 in Poplar died 1866.
On same page is parents of Ann
William Seal 1800
Esther 1802.

I can't find John James Verdon or Anne Verdon in 1871

Could there be a connection???

Maryb.

thats a big clue to look into!
why on earth didn't I check the whole page for Edward's location in 1861....
I'm normally pretty good at that to check for potential relatives.

Possibly a bit old:

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: Ann Verdon
Record Type: Death
Estimated Death Date: 1890
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St George in the East Union
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Died 25 December aged 64.

For place of burial it just says "ELC"

Just a thought about the French connection - my family were adamant that my ggrandfather was French, they claimed to know what part of France he was from. He did have a very French sounding surname (Daubeney) but I've traced the family back (100% verified) and they were from Stratford, London. Perhaps centuries before they may have come from France (haven't got that far yet) but there were Daubeneys in London for a long time. My elderly aunt still refuses to believe the proof - "she knows what she knows".

1841

RG number: HO107
Piece: 653
Book/Folio: 3/25
Page: 2
Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Enfield
Parish: Enfield
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Windmill Hill, Enfield
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SEAL, William M 40 1801 Middlesex
SEAL, Esther F 38 1803 Middlesex
SEAL, William M 18 1823 Middlesex
SEAL, Harriett F 13 1828 Middlesex
SEAL, John M 10 1831 Middlesex
>>>>>SEAL, Maria F 7 1834 Middlesex
SEAL, James M 8 1833 Middlesex
SEAL, Alfred M 6 1835 Middlesex
>>>>>SEAL, Ann F 4 1837 Middlesex
SEAL, Thomas M 0 (6 months) 1841 Middlesex



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Maria Seal
Spouse Name: Charles Donaldson Church
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Dec 1858
Parish: St Mary Stratford Bow
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Seal
Spouse Father Name: Donaldson Church
Register Type: Parish Register

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Mary Stratford Bow, Register of marriages, P88/MRY1, Item 020.


Maria Seal was a witness at her sister's wedding.

Witnesses to Maria's wedding are -

Ann Verdon and John Duncum

I'm starting to wonder if you are right about that Marie as nothing I have found so far or have in family bibles / letters suggests Anne was french.

I also can't find any clues to suggest she might be and am wondering is it just because of the french sounding name which from doing searches therea re many varients of it in the UK ging back years.

Well, I just pointed it out Ruth because it does happen a lot, maybe people thought it put a bit of glamour in their family?

When my cousins and I were talking to aunty about g-grandfather she said all the records were wrong because of course she knew her own grandfather (she was 4 when he died) and "he had a funny accent" - well we're geordies and he was from London so he would have sounded funny to her!