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Unknown Report 19 Mar 2013 20:25

Dear all

It seems I have under estimated how this post thing works and have been jumped on for not putting enough details for people to search.
Well let me be the first to apologize to all who have tried to help I was not sure that anyone would even read it.
I have been asked to put in detail what I am trying to find so here goes with what I know

My surname is Shelton
I am researching my family name and the relatives that came before me.
My farther was called Reginald William Shelton He was the youngest son and was born in 1933 In Leytonestone registered in Essex

His farther was called Frank (B1899c) married to May (Maiden name Hewitt)
He had various brothers and sisters
Gladys (Married William Higgins)
Jean married a man called Derek Morton
Ivy who had a twin brother Charlie( Ivy married a man called Steward and moved to Leeds Charlie moved to Chigwell at some point and married a lady called Hilda)
William (never married)
Merci (Married a man called Bert)
Edward(Teddy)
Herbert ( Married a lady called Joan who is still alive but very ill)
Ronnie(Married Daphne)
I think there was another brother but not sure
My grandfather And Grandmother on my dads side died when he was young Gran dad Frank came from Sheffield and was the son of a Black smith(we think)
They lived through the war in Essex Leyton Leytonestone area
I am looking for both sides of the family for my grandparents

Glady had a daughter called Shirley Tarling who married An Irish man called Patrick (Pat) Tarling and had two daughters Julie Tarling and Suzzane Tarling
Shirley Married An Irish man called Patrick (Pat) Tarling and had two daughters Julie Tarling and Suzzane Tarling
After uncle Will died they moved to Possibly Stallham in Norfolk Where they lived till Shirley died in the 90s
The reason I want to contact the two daughters is we were real close when I was a child and I would like to trace them again, I have tried Facebook and Twitter but cant find there accounts and I don't know if they married.

My Mothers name is Violet Shelton (Maiden name Hall)
Her mother was also called May she had been married before to a man called William Waters
Her maiden name was Meads
She had a son to her first marriage called Noel Her first husband died
She then re married to Walter Hall In Wakefield
My mother and farther both married in Wakefied and lived there till he died in the eighty's
I have a few details on my tree but I have gone off the rails from my Grand parents Back on my dads side as all his brothers have died so only have a few details which are correct

Please contact me to look at my tree for further details
I hope this has made things easier.


People have posted details on here already which i am finding a little confusing to follow so please have a look at what is already posted.
I am checking over again all posts and thanks for all your input.

Phil

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Mar 2013 23:14

Thank you for returning to this thread Phil.



Unknown

Unknown Report 9 Mar 2013 20:25

PricklyHolly

Wow I need to look through all this and try to make sense

Thanks

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 16:03

Just to add that i have been tearing my hair out looking for that 1901 census for Esther and Co...........no luck whatsoever i'm afraid. :-| :-|

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Mar 2013 13:35

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1320875

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 13:10

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Esther Plattfoot
Name: Esther Plattfoot
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1787
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Parent(s): Robt Plattfoot,
Mary Plattfoot
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

A Sister...

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Ann Plattford
Name: Ann Plattford
Baptism Date: 14 Oct 1785
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Parent(s): Robt Plattford,
Mary Plattford
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Robert Platford
Name: Robert Platford (Bachelor)
Spouse Name: Mary Richmond (Spinster)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 May 1777
Parish: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register
In the presence of...Rich Bratley and Christopher Green



London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Mary Richmond
Name: Mary Richmond
Baptism Date: 11 Jun 1760
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Parent(s): James Richmond, of Ratcliffe...Gardener
Mary Richmond
Record Type: Christening
Register Type: Parish Register





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 11:32

Looking at the witness Martha Emons on Thomas and Agnes's marriage record......

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Martha Emons
Name: Martha Emons
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1828
Father's Name: Thomas Emons (Cooper)
Mother's name: Esther Emons
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers
Abode: Chester Place.



1841 England Census
about Martha Emons
Name: Martha Emons
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Green
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 692
Book: 2
Folio: 26
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Emons 50 (Cooper)
Esther Emons 50
John Emons 30
Esther Emons 20
Eliza Emons 18
Martha Emons 13
Address.......Chester Place


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Emons
Name: Thomas Emons of this parish...Bachelor
Spouse Name: Esther Platfoot of this parish...spinster
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 30 Mar 1807
Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register
In the presence of.......John Ward and Lucy Emons

Thomas and Esther are not appearing in the 1851 census..


Deaths Jun 1849 (>99%)
Emons Thomas Bethnal Gn 2 16


Deaths Dec 1843 (>99%)
EMONS Esther Bethnal Green 2 22

Martha is with brother John in the 1851

1851 England Census
about Ballen Emons
Name: Ballen Emons
[Martha Emons]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 1540
Folio: 479
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Emons 41
Ballen Emons 22 (Sister)
William Daise ? 8 >>>>> not able to read the relationship of William
(This couple are actually living in the next property)
Solomon Mansend 56
Gabe Livemoor 37

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 10:24

I cannot for the life of me find........Esther Matilda Hewitt, Husband Frederick and children May, Rose and Agnes who appear with her in the 1911 census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 10:16

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Emens (Labourer) Bachelor
Name: Thomas Emens
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Agnes Sheppard (Spinster)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Jul 1869 >>>>>>1849 on the image
Parish: Bethnal Green St Andrew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Emens (Cooper)
Spouse Father Name: John Sheppard (Sailor)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Joseph Hewitt and Martha Emons

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 10:12

1861 England Census
about E M Emons
Name: E M Emons
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos Emons
Mother's name: Agnes Emons
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green

Civil parish: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Piece: 256
Folio: 86
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Emons 53
Agnes Emons 36
Thos W Emons 10
E M Emons 9
J A W Emons 6
George M Emons 2
J F Emons 9 Months
Henry Rule 47
Jane Fossett 67



1851 England Census
about Thomas Emons
Name: Thomas Emons
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes Emons
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 1540
Folio: 112
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Emons 43
Agnes Emons 26
Thos William 4 Mo

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 10:05

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Esther Matilda Emons
Name: Esther Matilda Emons
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1857
Father's Name: Thomas Emons (Labourer)
Mother's name: Agnes Emons
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Bartholomew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Baptised at the same time......


Thomas William Emons born 11 Nov 1850
John Alfred William Emons born 11 Oct 1854
Mary Ann Eliza Emons born 18 Oct 1856

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 09:55

Esther married Frederick Hewitt in 1893...

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Esther Matilda Batchelor
Name: Esther Matilda Batchelor (Widow)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Age: 41
Spouse Name: Frederick Hewitt (Bachelor) Labourer
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Dec 1893
Parish: Bow Common St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Emons (Labourer)
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Hewitt (Shoe Maker)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Richard Johnson and Elizabeth Cooper.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Mar 2013 09:52

Going back to the 1911 census.......

Walter and Agnes's marriage.......


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Agnes Mary Batchelor
Name: Agnes Mary Batchelor
Spouse Name: Walter Lucas
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1910
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 774



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Agnes Mary Bachelor
Name: Agnes Mary Bachelor
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1875
Father's Name: John Bachelor (Engineer)
Mother's name: Esther Matilda Bachelor
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Bartholomew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


1881 England Census
about Agnes Batchelor
Name: Agnes Batchelor
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Batchelor
Mother's name: Esther Batchelor
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Bohn St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 483
Folio: 80
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
John Batchelor 33 (Gas Fitter at Factory) Holloway Middlesex
Esther Batchelor 29
John Batchelor 10
Esther Batchelor 9
Agnes Batchelor 6
Authur Batchelor 4
James Batchelor 2
James Batchelor
Joseph Hewett 24 (Nephew)

Mother Esther married John Bachelor in 1870......


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Esther Emons
Name: Esther Emons (Spinster) 12 Cross Street
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Age: 18
Spouse Name: John Batchelor (Bachelor) Brass Finisher 8 Suffolk Street
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Mar 1870
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Emons (Labourer)
Spouse Father Name: Charles Batchelor (Brewer)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William Larage? and Sarah Minal.

In the 1891 census, Esther is now living with Frederick Hewitt and all the children from the 1881 census now have the surname of Hewitt.

1891 England Census
about Agnes Hewitt
Name: Agnes Hewitt
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
[1874]
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Fredrick Hewitt
Mother's name: Eather Hewitt
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
Town: South Hackney Ward
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 207
Folio: 81
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Fredrick Hewitt 38 (Labourer)
Eather Hewitt 38
John S Hewitt 18 (Middle initail looks like "G" on the image.
Esther Hewitt 16
Agnes Hewitt 14
Arthur Hewitt 12
James Hewitt 10
Herbert Hewitt 8

Unknown

Unknown Report 8 Mar 2013 01:56

Reggie

Thanks for your help all the posts have come at once so will reply as I get through them

Cheers

Phil

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Mar 2013 23:18

Phil

Start researching your family by using the following site..............

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

You will then - hopefully - have some accurate info

And when you ask for help, please take note of all of the replies. They are all posted with the intention of assisting your search

Lynski

Lynski Report 7 Mar 2013 20:45

Related thread -

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1320875

Penny

Penny Report 7 Mar 2013 19:40

Nudge as basically same request reposted

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 19:05

You could try looking for Julie and Suzanne on.....

Friends Reunited
192.Com
Facebook

I will PM you their birth details.........which might help you.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 18:53

Hi Phil

Welcome to the boards.

The only way you will find any photo's, is if you find any other GR members who are connected to your family.

To do that, you need to click on "Search Trees" above.........and then click on "Search All Trees" from the drop down menu.

According to an earlier post, there is member by the name of Adrian who has your Father in his tree.

When you have "Search All Trees" from the drop down menu, enter your Fathers details and see what you come up with.

You can then make contact with any connections you find, by sending a message via GR.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 18:41

I see the Higgins/Tarling marriage.........in 1967.