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HI,

Jax is right, That is the same record.

I've think I've finally succeeded in pming you the census image.

Sorry it took so long to respond, I'd been off line for a bit.

Plus my old laptop died and I've just got a new one with Windows 8, but I'm computer illiterate and couldn't manage to access the downloaded image to send it on to you.

Think I've finally done it.

Didn't have any joy with finding Matthew in 1851.

Kucinta

This looks like the ancestry version of that census

1841 England Census
about Mathew Coffing
Name: Mathew Coffing
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Gayton
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub-registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 768
Book: 11
Folio: 24
Page Number: 2

Wow. Where did you find the image? Are you able to share it with me? It's definitely a possibility as I cannot find another Matthew cutting in 1841 near Grimstone around that date and yet the later censuses are pretty consistent that this is when and where he was born. Thank you so much for your interest and help. Any ideas where he is in 1851?

In 1841 a Mathew Cutting aged 5 is in the workhouse at Gayton, close to Grimston, Norfolk.

Address: Union Workhouse, Gayton County: Norfolk

CUTTING, Mathew M 5 1836 Norfolk

Looking at the image there is also a William Cutting aged 13. Possibly a brother, but could he have been named after the father (Matthew Cutter's father was William on his marriage details to Martha posted earlier)

Edit, I see on an earlier post regarding the information from the Ancestry tree, Mathew Tennant Cutting 1837 had a brother called William.

More help needed please. I know Matthew Cutting was born about 1839 in Grimstone Norfolk according to the 1861 and 1871 census but I can find no record in the bmd or 1841 or 1851 and he should be there. Can anyone find him? Thanks for your help.

I found this death of a Matthew Cutting in Yorkshire
Name: Matthew Cutting
Birth: abt 1829
Death: Apr 1896 - Bradford, Yorkshire West Riding

Perhaps he deserted his wife so she went back to her previous name of Martha Fielding??

Seems a long shot but Matthew Cutting does not seem to be a common name.

Matthew Tennant Cutting definitely looks like Matthew Cutting Snr and Jemima's son. It's odd that Matthew T Cutting appears on the 1871 census (see first post). Maybe they named a son with the same name as a child who died earlier. Still no luck finding the death of Matthew Cutting Snr though.

(might be the below Sylvia)

Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 12 Mar 1862
Forename Matthew Tennent
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname CUTTING
Age 2m
Abode Ryan Street

(from below link)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 11 Jan 1862
BaptismDate 05 Mar 1862
Forename Matthew *
FatherForename Matthew *
MotherForename Jemima
FatherSurname CUTTING
MotherSurname
Abode Ryan Street
FatherOccupation Shoemaker

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place West Lynn
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 164
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Oct 1870
Forename Matthew Tennent
FatherForename Matthew
MotherForename Jemima
FatherSurname CUTTING
MotherSurname
Abode West Lynn
FatherOccupation Shoemaker

????????

from ancestry



weird!!!


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Matthew Tennant Cutting

Name: Matthew Tennant Cutting
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862
Registration district: Wisbech
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 420

According to a Public Family Tree on ancestry .................

Matthew's full name was



Matthew TENNANT CUTTING
Birth 6 Nov 1837 in Brancaster, Norfolk, England


Parents

William CUTTING 1796 –
Mary Jane TENNANT 1800 –


Siblings

Adelaide Sarah CUTTING
Mary Ann CUTTING
Samuel MURRELL CUTTING
William CUTTING
Eleanor CUTTING 1823 –
Mark CUTTING 1829 –
Matthew TENNANT CUTTING 1837 –

well, the father's name on that marriage is the same as the one posted earlier for the marriage to Matthew ......... so it does look like the same person!

Her first marriage

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Henry Fielding
Name: Henry Fielding
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 14 Dec 1861
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: James Fielding
Spouse's Name: Martha Ann Taylor
Spouse's Father's Name: Joshua Taylor

Ummmm If it was the same woman she has gone back to her previous husbands name

1891 England Census
about Martha A Fielding
Name: Martha A Fielding
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Evandon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool

Martha A Fielding 45
Clara Fielding 24
Harry Fielding 10
Edgar Fielding 18
George Hogg 79

Martha in 1881 living in Woodhouse lane

1881 England Census
about Martha Ann Fielding
Name: Martha Ann Fielding
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Fielding
Gender: Female
Where born: Ovendon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 114 Woodhouse Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
Henry Fielding 37
Martha Ann Fielding 38
Clara Fielding 14
Harry Fielding 11
Edgar Fielding 10

Her husbands death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Fielding
Name: Henry Fielding
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1882
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 247 (click to see others on page)

Any clues on looking for a bootmaker who lived in Woodhouse Lane, Leeds in 1882 called Matthew Cutting?

Thanks George for the kind offer but I found the original on line. I think that is the Matthew Cutting I'm after. It's odd that I cannot find him anywhere on the 1881 England census or his death or burial.

Dont know if you have this from Ancestry.West Yorkshire Marriages


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Matthew Cutting
Name: Matthew Cutting
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 43
Marriage or Bann Date: 6 Nov 1882
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Father's Name: William Cutting
Spouse's Name: Martha Ann Fielding
Spouse's Father's Name: Joshua Taylor


I can send you the original image of the marriage

George

I realise I'm answering my own question here but for completeness I think this is Matthew Cutting marrying in Leeds in 1882 as they are both boot makers. Still I can't find him on the 1881 census or afterwards.

A widower Matthew Cutting marries Martha Fielding in 1882 but it is in Leeds. Seems unlikely but maybe??

This is great. I think you are on the money. It looks like the siblings went to live with their sister Mary Jane and this would fit with Jemima dying in Caistor as suggested above. I wonder what happened to their father Matthew? Thanks again.