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I've tried looking for a birth of Richard Poyner. In the 1901 census he is 47 making his year of birth 1854 in Wolverhampton. So far I can't find anything. Can anyone help.

Anne

His surname appears to vary in terms of spelling over the years so possibly this one and maybe the family below in 1861?

Name: Richard Poiner
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1854
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 366

1861?

Name: Richard Pyner
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Pyner
Mother's name: Jane Pyner
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 1996
Folio: 9
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Pyner 46
Jane Pyner 41
Edward Pyner 18
John Pyner 16
Henry Pyner 13
Joseph Pyner 11
Richard Pyner 8
George Pyner 5
Jane Pyner 2 Months

Still looking for William Beech's parents. Richard Beech who died before William was married in 1899, according to Williams marriage certificate was a carpenter.

Anne

In the 1911 census it is showing William Beech as being born in Pelsall, Staffordshire. Can anyone tell me if this is the area that would show up on the birth records or would it show up as another area i.e. Walsall or Darlaston or even somewhere else.

In 1901 William also listed his birthplace as Sedgley when he was living with his in laws, so Pelsall is not the only birthplace he lists.

If you find the correct birth cert it would give this address at birth. But you first have to find the correct certificate.

You can search free on FreeBMD. The birth that would appear to match the birth that safc found is below as the Registration District of Dudley includes Sedgley.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
Beach William Dudley 6c 82

Pesall is covered by the Registration of Walsall and there is one birth in the Walsall area in 1880 but this appears in the census to match another William with father Charles.

I'm still struggling to find any more information on Mary Poyners family. On her marriage certificate to William Beech; it states her age as 22 and that her father's name was Richard. I found a birth certificate for a Mary Poyner in the registration district of Bloxwich, which I understand covers Pelsall for December 1876 but this states her father as Joseph.

Can anyone throw any light on this or find me another birth. There is a Mary Poyner in the 1881 census in Pelsall, Bloxwich, but her father's name is George.

I think this is Mary Poyner and mother Sarah Ann with Sarah's parents in 1881. She is mistranscribed as Paynes. Jan already found Richard Poyner in 1881 living away from home and safc found the marriage of Sarah Ann to Richard


RUDGE, William Head Married M 66 1815 Blacksmith Unemployed
Longford, Shropshire
RUDGE, Matilda Wife Married F 62 1819 Blacksmith Unemployed Wife
Newport Pagnal, Buckinghamshire
PAYNES, Sarah A Daughter Married F 26 1855 No Employment
Wilshamstead, Bedfordshire
PAYNES, Mary Grand Daughter Single F 2 1879
Pelsall, Staffordshire VIEW

Piece: 2816

Folio: 112

Page: 7

Registration District: Wolverhampton

Civil Parish: Bilston

Municipal Borough:

Address: 1, John Street, Bilston

County: Staffordshire

Found two possible births for Mary in the Walsall district that covers Pelsall.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1878
Poiner Mary Ann Walsall 6b 731

Births Dec 1878
POINER Mary Walsall 6b 679

Can anyone tell me who William Rudge married in 1852 in Newport Pagnell.

Yep, from FMP
MarriageFinder™: William Rudge married Matilda Nobles
Name: RUDGE, William
Registration district: Newport Pagnell
County: Buckinghamshire
Year of registration: 1852
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name
Not available before 1912
Volume no: 3A Page no: 500

Thank you