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Thanks Dea....it is indeed a possibility, I seem to remember a story from my father in law about the Merchant Navy!.....I'm going to order that birth cert right now #excited! :-D

Who are the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

Kath. x

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Cecil G Hall
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1964
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 293


This fits with the birth I posted some time ago

Oops sorry Kath, just seen your post, yes it says he is 20 yrs old...I have his birth ref; as Dec 1901, so I hope its the right guy.

Is this him?

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Last name:HALL
First names:Cecil George

Age:
Day of birth:5
Month of birth:September
Year of birth:1901

Place of birth:London

County/country of birth:London

Card type:CR10

Discharge number:

Identity certificate no.:846424

Series:BT350

Date range:1918-1921

Piece number:

Doesn't help with his parents though - you really need that birth cert.

Dea x

Yes, I think that will be my next step...I only recieved the marriage certificate an hour ago, which states Cecil George's age in 1922 as 20 yrs old and I know he was born in Hackney, I just wanted to make sure I had the right person before purchasing another certificate.....thankyou all, for all your help, you've given me something to concentrate on while I wait another week for the certificate to arrive!...xx :-)

Does Cecil George's marriage certificate in 1922 state what age he is at the time?

Kath. x

Is this a possible ?
George Hall
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Hackney
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1901
Regimental Number: 4220
Regiment Name: Coldstream Guards
Number of images: 7

Are any of the witnesses on the marriage cert related

I think you need Cecil George's birth certificate to find his mother's name and the father's occupation when Cecil was born.

Dea,
I have my father in law's birth cert, (name also George born 1923), his parents marriage cert in Cecil George and Maud Underwood in 1922, which states Cecil George's father as just George Hall a timekeeper, so I was guessing he would be born around 1883 ish?

Thanks Reggie...I am going by Cecil George Hall's 1922 marriage certificate, which say's his father's name was George Hall - occupation a 'timekeeper' all I know is that Cecil George was born in Hackney.

Can you tell us how you have worked your way back to George Hall and how you know he was born in 1883 ?

You need to give us ALL the info you have please.

Dea x

Possible census information.
1911
HALL, George Head Married M 34 1877 Drill Instructor Army Pensioner London St Pancras
HALL, Catherine Wife Married11 years F 33 1878 Devon Ilfracombe
HALL, Cecil Son M 9 1902 London Clapton
HALL, Reginald Son M 8 1903 London St Pancras
HALL, Vincent Son M 2 1909 London St Pancras
HARRIS, Elizabeth Visitor Single F 59 1852 Devon Ilfracombe
RG number: RG14 Piece: 745 Reference: RG14PN745 RG78PN26 RD9 SD4 ED2 SN58 Registration District: St Pancras Sub District: North St Pancras Enumeration District: 2 Parish: St Pancras Address: 22 Maitland Park Road N W County: London

or

HALL, Nellie Head Widow F 36 1875 Private Means Hants Hail Weston
HALL, Cecil Son M 11 1900 School London Clapham Junct
RG number: RG14 Piece: 6405 Reference: RG14PN6405 RG78PN313 RD115 SD2 ED6 SN7 Registration District: Hungerford Sub District: Hungerford Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Little Bedwyn
Address: Little Bedwyn Hungerford County: Berkshire

How do you know where and when George was born if you don't have census details for him?

Look for George's marriage on freebmd to find his wife's name

Or buy the son's birth cert

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
Hall Cecil George Hackney 1b 457

1891 ???
CURCHAM, Thos Head Married M 79 1812 Shop Manager
Sawley, Derbyshire VIEW
CURCHAM, Harriet Wife Married F 70 1821
Grantham, Nottinghamshire VIEW
HALL, Robt Son In Law M 46 1845 Grocers Assistant
Surrey VIEW
HALL, Marg Daughter F 46 1845 Labourer
Nottinghamshire VIEW
HALL, Arthur Grandson M 9 1882 Scholar
Shoreditch, London VIEW
HALL, Geo Grandson M 6 1885 Scholar
Shoreditch, London VIEW

Piece: 206

Folio: 152

Page: 47

Registration District: Hackney

Civil Parish: Hackney

Municipal Borough:

Address: 124, Cassland Road, Hackney, South Hackney

County: London

Can anyone who has access to the 1911, 1901and 1891 census's possibly help me out, I've worked my way back to 1922-ish and I am searching for (worst name to be searching) -
George Hall b 1883* in Hackney.
his wife ??
their son, Cecil George Hall b1901* Hackney
and any other members of family, occupations etc so that I can then look in the 1881 for more clue's