|
But Simon is younger than Catharine - perhaps Mary Ann was born illegitimately to Catharine - I have another Scottish ancestor this has happened to and they have led me a merry dance, fibbing about ages and names!
|
|
Thank you Potty - but - oh dear - I can't even find one marriage for Simon !
Helen
|
|
The gap in age between Mary Ann and Catherine is 14 years - I would guess at a second marriage for Simon.
|
|
Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLEMING, Simon
Registration district: South Shields
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1906
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 64
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 416
|
|
Hi Kathleen
Yes I have looked for marriage in Scotland, normal BDI, Marriages and Banns pre 1855 and Catholic Registers but nothing turns up.
Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you
|
|
Hi
I'm assuming that the 1872 Stockton birth is my gt grandfather, and have the certificate showing Simon Fleming and Catharine Conroy as his parents. I have the 1871 certificate from before his birth. And have the censuses from 1881 showing Simon in Newcastle, and 1901 in Jarrow. I didn't have 1891 so thank you for that one.
I also didn't have James in 1901 so thats another help. I don't seem to be able to find all 3 together, or even James and Catharine together.
I will try to find them in Scotland I think as I think Catharine may have gone back north.
Many thanks to all
Helen
|
|
Have you looked on ScotlandsPeople for a marriage?
Kath. x
|
|
Could be Simon and family in the 1871 census:-
1871 census transcription details for: Foundry Square, Walker
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5123
Folio: 102
Page: 40
Reg. District: Tynemouth
Sub District: Longbenton
Parish: Walker
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Foundry Square, Walker
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FLEMING, Simon Head M 26 1845 Scotland
FLEMING, Catharine Wife F 30 1841 Scotland
FLEMING, Mary A Daughter F 15 1856 Codurham
FLEMING, Catherine Daughter F 1 1870 Codurham
NICHOLSON, Mary Servant F 19 1852 Northumberland
Kath. x
|
|
1871 census transcription details for: Foundry Square, Walker
Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5123
Folio: 102
Page: 40
Reg. District: Tynemouth
Sub District: Longbenton
Parish: Walker
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Foundry Square, Walker
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FLEMING, Simon Head M 26 1845 Scotland
FLEMING, Catharine Wife F 30 1841 Scotland
FLEMING, Mary A Daughter F 15 1856 Codurham
FLEMING, Catherine Daughter F 1 1870 Codurham
NICHOLSON, Mary Servant F 19 1852 Northumberland
|
|
??
1901 census transcription details for: 103, High Street, Jarrow
Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4742
Folio: 111
Page: 13
Reg. District: South Shields
Sub District: Boldon
Parish: Jarrow
Enum. District: 21
Ecclesiastical District: Jarrow on Tyne St Pauls
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 103, High Street, Jarrow
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FLEMING, Simon J Head Widower M 59 1842 Bill Distributer
Scotland
1891 census transcription details for: 8 & 6, Dunn Street, Hedworth Monkton And Yarrow, Jarrow
Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4165
Folio: 56
Page: 48
Reg. District: South Shields
Sub District: South Shields
Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls
City/Municipal Borough: Jarrow
Address: 8 & 6, Dunn Street, Hedworth Monkton And Yarrow, Jarrow
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTS, George Head Single M 37 1854 Lodging House Manager & Hokey Po? Man
Manchester, Lancashire
SHERRAH, Archibold Deputy Married M 40 1851 Boiler Maker
Scotland
SHERRAH, Isabella Wife Married F 35 1856 Deputy Lodging House Keeper
Scotland
SHERRAH, Racheal Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Workington, Cumberland
SHERRAH, Robert Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Sunderland, County Durham
FISTER, William Lodger Single M 50 1841 Hair Dresser
Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
ROSY, Geo Lodger Single M 35 1856 Driller
Scotland
ROONEY, Michael Lodger Single M 42 1849 Furnace Man
Ireland
FITZGERALD, John Lodger Single M 36 1855 Railway Porter
Ireland
OGILVIE, Alexander Lodger Married M 31 1860 Labourer Shipyard
Scotland
NIXON, Nathaniel Lodger Married M 42 1849 Blacksmith
Hexham, Northumberland
REVILL, Thos Lodger Single M 36 1855 Bricklayers Labourer
Hull, Yorkshire
DONALD, James Lodger Single M 20 1871 Tackle Hanger
West Hartlepool, County Durham
FLETCHER, Alexander Lodger Single M 43 1848 Rivetter
Scotland
DAVISON, James Lodger Married M 39 1852 Dock Labourer
Scotland
SMITH, William Lodger Widower M 72 1819 Tinsmith
Scotland
BOW, James Lodger Single M 35 1856 Labourer General
Ireland
MACK, John Lodger Single M 39 1852 Labourer General
Ireland
WARDHAUGH, John Lodger Single M 24 1867 Compositor
Scotland
CURRIE, William Lodger Widower M 56 1835 Labourer General
Ireland
MILLER, Thos Lodger Single M 26 1865 Driller
Scotland
NEWTON, John Lodger Single M 30 1861 Labourer General
Ireland
OVERTON, Henry Lodger Single M 20 1871 Shipman
Carlisle, Cumberland
ATKINSON, Robert W Lodger Single M 30 1861 Labourer General
Tudhoe, County Durham
HODGSON, Charles H Lodger Single M 20 1871 Sawdust Merchant
Ireland
LYON, John Lodger Single M 56 1835 Navvy
Ireland
LYON, Michael Lodger Single M 41 1850 Navvy
Ireland
WELSH, Michael Lodger Single M 58 1833 Bricklayers Labourer
Ireland
LYNCH, Hugh Lodger Single M 67 1824 Navvy
Ireland
HALL, James Lodger Single M 19 1872 Labourer General
Hebburn, County Durham
MCCURLEE, James Lodger Widower M 50 1841 Labourer General
Ireland
CALLIGHAN, Patrick Lodger Single M 40 1851 Labourer General
Ireland
HANEL, James Lodger Single M 56 1835 Labourer General
Ireland
ROSE, Thos Lodger Single M 51 1840 Paper Maker
Scotland
SHARP, Jas Lodger Single M 48 1843 Fitter
Manchester, Lancashire
>.FLEMING, Simon Lodger Married M 48 1843 Labourer General
Scotland
JENNING, Michael Lodger Single M 60 1831 Bricklayers Labourer
Hull, Yorkshire
ALLISON, Geo Lodger Single M 32 1859 Bricklayers Labourer
Scotland
MCEVAN, John Lodger Single M 28 1863 Painter
Scotland
1881 census transcription details for: 3, White Boar Entry, Newcastle Upon Tyne All Saints
Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5065
Folio: 98
Page: 23
Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub District: All Saints
Parish: Newcastle upon Tyne All Saints
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, White Boar Entry, Newcastle Upon Tyne All Saints
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FLEMING, Simon Head Single M 38 1843 Laborer In Iron Works
Scotland
|
|
Is this James's birth? :-
Name: FLEMING, James
Registration district: Stockton
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1872
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 114
Kath. x
|
|
Is this James jnr?
1901 England Census
Name: James Fleming
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockton on Tees, Durham, England
Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Piece: 4577
Folio: 164
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Hy Taspery 43
Emily Taspery 36
Henry Taspery 20
Edith Taspery 18
John Taspery 15
Sarah E Taspery 7
George Taspery Under 7 Months
James Fleming 28
|
|
Which site(s) have you used in trying to find info?
How did you learn Catherine's maiden name if you are unsure of the birth details of the son?
|
|
Hi
My gt gt grandparents were Catherine Conroy and Simon Fleming (poss aka James Fleming). They both have Scotland and Stockton/Middlesbrough (co Durham and co Yorkshire) connections, and possibly places between Stockton and Newcastle.
I believe their son James Fleming was born in Stockton in 1872. I am unable to find a marriage or census for them. Can anyone give me any pointers please?
Many thanks
Helen
|
