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Hi, I am trying to find relatives of Iris Sylvia Trimm.
She was the life long partner of my great Uncle. I have her death certificate. I know they never married. From her DC I know she was born 14 June 1908 in Wiltshire.

When I search records the only thing that comes up is her death in 1976. No birth record or 1911 census record.

Sadly, because they didn't marry, they were almost outcasted by the rest of the family, but I would like to know more about her. Any suggestions gratefully received
Thank you
Yvonne

Are you certain she had not been married before

Keep looking at Penny surname on 1911

Could the reason they never married be because she was already married, in which case her birth surname would be different?

For ref

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Iris Sylvia Trimm
Name: Iris Sylvia Trimm
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1908
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1976
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 11
Page: 1008



Andy

Possible:

Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
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PENNY Iris Sylvia Mere 5a 205

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
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Penny Iris S Trim Mere 5a 535
Trim Arthur E Penny Mere 5a 535

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
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Penny Iris S Trim Mere 5a 535

Married before

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
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Penny Iris S Trim Mere 5a 535
Trim Arthur E Penny Mere 5a 535


Andy

1911

1911 England Census
about Iris Sylvia Penny
Name: Iris Sylvia Penny
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Zeals, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Zeals
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: No 9 Zeals Road, Zeals, Wiltshire
Registration district: Mere
Registration District Number: 256
Sub-registration district: Mere
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 12162
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Penny 50
Lydia Monica Penny 46
Ida Mary Penny 21
Bone Penny 18
Ethel Annie Penny 12
Violet Pretoria Penny 10
Dorothy Daisy Penny 8
Iris Sylvia Penny 3


Andy

Wonder if Arthur married again in 1943

Above in 1911:

1911 England Census
about Iris Sylvia Penny
Name: Iris Sylvia Penny
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Zeals, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Zeals
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: No 9 Zeals Road, Zeals, Wiltshire
Registration district: Mere
Registration District Number: 256
Sub-registration district: Mere
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 12162
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Penny 50
Lydia Monica Penny 46
Ida Mary Penny 21
Bone Penny 18
Ethel Annie Penny 12
Violet Pretoria Penny 10
Dorothy Daisy Penny 8
Iris Sylvia Penny 3

That is brilliant, thank you to everyone who has replied. I will work on that. I haven't been told if she was married previously or how long she had been with my great Uncle. Just know they had been together a long time, didn't marry and the family disapproved of her.

Thank you again
Yvonne

Arthur Trim was my grandfather and left Iris during WWII when he went to an aircraft factory in Birmingham. He met my grandmother and presumably had an affair.

He never divorced Iris as my grandmother had to change her name by deed poll to Trimm as did he (from Trim). Arthur died in 1967 and we did not find out they had not been married until my grandmother died in the 1990s.

Rachael

You have added to old posts. You could try sending a pm by clicking on Yvonnes name. If she has kept the same email address she should receive your message.

Good luck