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30 Jan 2013 15:22 |
UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920 Name: William Frank Goddard (age 27) Discharge Unit: Essex. Regt. Regiment Number: 9820 Rank: Pte Badge Number: B309047 Unit: Infantry (Warley) Piece: 3110 List Number: K 1601/1-1900/2 Record Group: WO Record Class: 329 (Served Overseas. Yes, Cause of Discharge K.R. 392 (xvia)
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Historical Background
The British Empire lost more than 700,000 service personnel killed in World War 1. An even greater number were discharged because of wounds or illness. In September 1916, King George V authorized the Silver War Badge (SWB) to honor all military personnel who had served at home or overseas since 4 August 1914 and who had been discharged because of wounds or illness. The SWB was a small, circular badge made of sterling silver, bearing the king’s initials, a crown, and the inscriptions ‘For King and Empire’ and ‘Services Rendered’. The SWB was not simply an honor; it also served a practical purpose. At the time, men of military age who were not obviously in the service were sometimes accosted or insulted by civilians presenting them with white feathers — a symbol of cowardice — for shirking their patriotic duty. The badge served as an outward symbol that the wearer’s duty to country had been honorably fulfilled.
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30 Jan 2013 14:30 |
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Name: Eliza Ball Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Age: 26 Spouse Name: William Frank Goddard (Private in 3rd Essex Regt.) Spouse Age: 28 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 3 Aug 1918 Parish: Walworth All Saints Borough: Southwark Father Name: George John Ball Spouse Father Name: William Goddard (Silversmith. Deceased) Register Type: Parish Register
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(also think 1911 looks good!)
Name: William Goddard Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Apr 1885 Father's Name: William Goddard (Bricklayer) Mother's Name: Caroline Goddard Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Saviour Borough: Wandsworth Register Type: Parish Registers (address, 29, Balfern Street)
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GlitterBaby
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30 Jan 2013 12:20 |
Would not be so quick in ruling out the 1911 census
Looking at the Medal Card it show he enlisted on 21.10.11 in Essex Regiment.
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30 Jan 2013 12:10 |
This site will give you an explanation of the discharge code:
http://www.military-researcher.com/KR392.html
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30 Jan 2013 12:09 |
A Guide to WW1 Causes of Discharge - Paragraph 392 of King's Regulations 1912
http://www.forrestdale.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/KingsRegs1912/Para392Introduction.html
Discharged in April 1919 and would appear to be surplus to military requirements
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30 Jan 2013 12:07 |
I have to go out now, thanks for looking and will check back later Ann
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30 Jan 2013 11:52 |
PP I have Eliza and William (junior) Marriage certificate
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30 Jan 2013 11:50 |
I wonder about this one ??
William Goddard Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Goddard Mother's Name: Caroline Goddard Gender: Male Where born: Battersea, Surrey, England Civil parish: Battersea Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: West Battersea
Is it possible that the birth year is just wrong ?
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30 Jan 2013 11:41 |
Son Frank born 1875 Liverpool
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Frank Goddard Name: Frank Goddard (Jewell Case Maker) 33 Shinland Road Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Age: 23 Spouse Name: Florence Linton Watters Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Aug 1899 Parish: Paddington St Saviour Borough: Westminster Father Name: William Goddard (Hairdresser) Spouse Father Name: Robert Walter Watters (Boot Closer) Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: William Hollingsworth and Fanny Watters
1901 England Census about Frank Goddard Name: Frank Goddard Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Florence H Goddard Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Highbury ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 77 Piece: 201 Folio: 89 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Frank Goddard 25 (Jewel Case Maker) Florence L Goddard 25 Arthur L Goddard 10 Months Joseph Boreham 53 (Visitor)
I can't spot him in 1891 with his parents though.
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McAlp
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30 Jan 2013 11:26 |
rootgatherer That could be possibility, I can't rule it in or out at the moment
I thought if I could find a them in Islington on a census I would find where and when they were born.
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30 Jan 2013 11:23 |
1871 England Census about Caroline Goddard Name: Caroline Goddard [Caroline Hollingsworth] Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frank Hollingsworth Mother's Name: Mary Ellen Hollingsworth Gender: Female Where born: Birmingham Civil parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Household schedule number: 7 Piece: 4681 Folio: 115 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Frank Hollingsworth 47 Mary Ellen Hollingsworth 43 Caroline Goddard 22 (Married) Sarah Ann Hollingsworth 14 Teresa Hollingsworth 10 Frank Rd Hollingsworth 7 Edith Hollingsworth 2 James Goddard 10 Months (Grandson)
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30 Jan 2013 11:22 |
Thanks PP but Granddad wasn't born till 1889 and was born in Islington not Liverpool. My problem is I don't know when Caroline or William Senior were born or where, and no one to ask.
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rootgatherer
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30 Jan 2013 11:20 |
Is this his parents marriage?
Marriages Dec 1869
Goddard William Sheffield 9c 638 Hollingsworth Caroline Sheffield 9c 638 MASKERY Tilly Sheffield 9c 638 WOODLEY George Sheffield 9c 638
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30 Jan 2013 11:14 |
Hi thanks but he was in the Essex Regiment
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30 Jan 2013 11:12 |
1881 England Census about William Goddard Name: William Goddard Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Caroline Goddard Gender: Male Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Leicester St Margaret County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: 43 Wharf Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Hairdresser Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 60 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3164 Folio: 105 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Goddard 30 (Hairdresser) Caroline Goddard 30 Birmingham James Goddard 10 Sheffield Edith Goddard 7 Sheffield Frank Goddard 5 Liverpool Kate Goddard 2 Leistershire
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30 Jan 2013 11:09 |
????
1911
Name: William Frank Goddard Age in 1911: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Birth Place: Islington, London, England Civil parish: Richmond County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding Country: England Marital Status: Single Military unit: 3rd Res Battalion Yorkshire Regiment Registration district: Richmond Registration District Number: 542 Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 29474
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30 Jan 2013 11:08 |
1911 perhaps?
1911 England Census about William Frank Goddard Name: William Frank Goddard Age in 1911: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Birth Place: Islington, London, England Civil parish: Richmond County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding Country: England Marital Status: Single Military unit: 3rd Res Battalion Yorkshire Regiment Registration district: Richmond Registration District Number: 542 Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 29474
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30 Jan 2013 11:02 |
So could some kind person save my sanity and my eyesight please.
Frank William Goddard Born 23 October 1889 on birth certificate place is Islington parents William Goddard occupation Hairdresser mother Caroline Hollingsworth Address 120 Liverpool Buildings Islington.
Army medal record Essex Regiment Regimental number 9820 enlisted 21 October 1911 discharged 21 April 1919 under cause of discharge are the code is P.392 (xvia)KR Action taken list K/1837/2. Which I have no idea what they mean.
Married Eliza Ball: born 14 July 1893 4 August 1918 Newington London his address at time was 31 Inville Road But has swapped his names around and now he calls himself William Frank Her parents were George John Ball Mother Eliza Wright.
He died 21 December 1971 Brook Hospital Greenwich.
We have all the above certificates But I can find nothing on any of the census.
Eliza I have on the 1901 census with her parents Eliza and George.
Thank you Ann
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