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Scozz - Thank you for that, interesting to find out that albeit distantly - we have a connection.

As to reading the certificate on SP, in he end I contacted SP and they provided me with clarification of the details.

In addition, thanks mainly to those who contributed to this thread, I have managed to sort out a lot of details in respect of Peter Graham & Mary Watson, if you want to have a look at my tree just PM me.

That said I still have several brick walls to knock down as I am still working away at trying to get definite proof of the connections linking the Kennedy family to the Clusker family and also details for the marriage in the USA of James P Clusker to Mary Bryant.

Thanks Again.

Jim

I'm not related to the older Cluskers, but I am related to the Grahams (Peter Graham & Agnes Watson), so I am a distant cousin of the children of Anthony Clusker & Agnes Graham, and the children of Peter Graham & Susan Clusker (4th cousin twice removed, according to my software).

re Peter Graham & Mary Watson - Mary's grandmother (Violet Hamilton) is my 4xgreat-grand aunt.

Mary was first married to John Gray they had 8 children, he died in 1878, then she married Peter Graham in 1880, they had 7 children that I know of.

I've got a little bit about the Cluskers, but I got most of it from familysearch.

If you have trouble reading the documents from SP, let the staff know, they are very helpful. I'm sure they will decipher the scrawl for you (there's a link on the site, about not being able to read the image).

Gins, Eringobragh1916, mgnv, and rootgatherer,

Thanks for all your various contributions, I have been slowly working my way through these and at long last I think I have got the Graham, the Watson, the Cumming, and the Burrow connections to the Clusker family sorted out and added to my tree.

Having said that I appear to have lost the plot while trying to work on this comment from and earlier post on this thread :-

"Going to Husband John Kennedy and Aunt Clusker"

I am still unable to find a connection linking the Kennedy family to the Clusker family, except the one below that I have previously mentioned.

However I do not have a Margaret Clusker in my tree, maybe I have missed something and it is staring me in the face :-(

Spouse Michael Kennedy
Child Michael Kennedy
Gender Male
Baptism/Christening date
Baptism/Christening place
Birth Date 07 Jun 1865
Birthplace 0802, CLONDALKIN, DUBLIN, IRELAND
Father's name Michael Kennedy
Mother's name Margaret Clusker

James

I have joined Irish Genealogy on the NET, and posted a query on a board there to try and find out if there are any connections between, Patrick Clusker/Susan MacLare; John McDermott/Mary Clusker; Michael Kennedy/Margaret Clusker; and Jane Dickie/Dickey.

Has to be worth a try :-)

Eringobragh1916,

I looked in my tree as I knew I had come across the name McDermott before, this is probably a coincidence, but I have a Patrick Clusker born c1821 who married c1850, a Susan MacLare born c1820.

They has a son Bernard Clusker born c1870 who married a Josephine McDermott
born c1878:-

Church Marriage McDermott Josephine 1897 Co. Meath
Church Marriage Clusker Bernard 1897 Co. Meath

James

Afternoon Eringobragh1916,

Finding Michael Kennedy and Margaret Clusker's parent is at the top of my list and that information on John McDermott and Mary Clusker may help, so I will have a look at the various Patrick Clusker's I have in my tree.

After the brutal suppression of the 1798 uprising by the British Forces many went into hiding and apart from the political trouble there was also the famine of the mid 1800's, as a consequence of the combination of the troubles and the famine, many many thousands left the country, either in fear of their lives or starvation, to seek a better life elsewhere, so tracing people from that time is no easy task.

Sadly, I have noted a few Clusker's who were incarcerated in Mountjoy Prison :-(

James

James...Have looked at what you have and I have located the Baptism of Mary Kennedy 1867 ..it is not on an image so the only details are year of Birth and area..Bluebell Clondalkin..

Bluebell .. is a small suburb of Dublin, Ireland, situated on the Southside of the city, approximately 6.5 kilometres south-west of Dublin city centre. The suburb borders Drimnagh to the east, Kylemore and Inchicore to the north, At the time in question it was a rural farming area.

I cannot find either Michael jnrs /Thomas' Baptisms or Michael snrs Marriage but not sure if they all are transcribed for Clondakin...that being said it appears there were Kennedy's and a few Cluskers around the areas...what I have found and again through sheer chance is the following for Rathfarnham...

Husband Wife .....April 1883.
Name JOHN MC DERMOTT MARY CLUSKER
Address 108 N KING ST RATHMINES
Occupation N/R N/R
Father MATTH MC DERMOTT ... **PATRICK CLUSKER **
Mother BRIGID TULLY.... **SUSAN CLARE ***


May or may not be of value ...there are no other records that I can find for them in the area...
There are No Kennedy's/Cluskers on 1901 Census for Clondalkin

Afternoon rootgatherer,

I have noticed that and I have also come across several instances, where someone for some reason or another, has adopted a second christian name which was not on their birth certificate.

James

Just in the passing. A few years ago I did some research for a colleague. He thought that his G. grandfather's name was Brian but his sister said it was Bernard. The man was Irish. In some records he was recorded as Brian and some as Bernard so these names seem to be interchangable like Isabella and Elizabeth are in Scotland? I have found the same with the names Patrick and Peter.

Morning Eringobragh1916,

It may or may not be the lead I am looking for but I have found a Clusker/Kennedy connection :-)

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

parent Michael Kennedy, Margaret Clusker
spouse Michael Kennedy
child Mary Kennedy
name Mary Kennedy
gender Female
birth date 25 Jul 1867
birthplace 0711, Clondalkin, Dublin, Ireland
father's name Michael Kennedy
mother's name Margaret Clusker

parent Michael Kennedy, Margaret Clusker
spouse Michael Kennedy
child Michael Kennedy
name Michael Kennedy
gender Male
birth date 07 Jun 1865
birthplace 0802, Clondalkin, Dublin, Ireland
father's name Michael Kennedy
mother's name Margaret Clusker

parent Michael Kennedy, Margaret Clusk <<<<<<
name Thomas Kennedy
gender Male
birth date 24 Jun 1874
birthplace Ireland
father's name Michael Kennedy
mother's name Margaret Clusk <<<<<<

<<<<<< this has to be Clusker

James...Have sent you the info re Bernatd and Jane Dickie (Co Antrim) Rootgatherer was spot on....

http://irishgenealogy.net/cp/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1176

Thank You James..Have received them and will look further tonight.....

Evening Eringobragh1916,

I hope tou don't mind if I forward these to you as my eyes have had it for today :-(

Best Regards,

James

James ...Can you clarify the following...You have ....

"I looked at the marriage on SP for, John "Kennedy" and Mary Reynolds 1901, but no clue there to any McDade or Clusker connection.

I then looked at John "Reynolds" parents marriage, a Richard Reynolds and Mary Lafferty 1873, and again I drew a blank."

Who were the parents of John and Mary from the MC....

In an earlier part of this post Eringobragh1916 said my family was giving him nightmares, nothing compared to the nightmares the Kennedy family in this post are giving me, mark you at my age it does not take much to :-S me.

I have spent a large part of the last few days going back over this thread trying to find something that would lead to a definite connection between the Clusker's and the Kennedy's, have been going round in circles, and I keep coming back to rootgatherer's posts for the Kennedy births showing the mother as being a Jane Dickey/Dickie. Maybe I should be looking for a connection between Dickey/Dickie and Clusker instead of a connection between Kennedy and Clusker.

I am determined to crack this providing I can retain my sanity.

James..Have just worked out what it says after his name.."Coalminer"....!!

Eringobragh1916,

It would not surprise having seen some of the things my ancestors have got up to :-(

At least it is another mystery solved.

Logging off now, time to fix something to eat.

Regards,

James

James...Looks ike she may have had Wm.declared "Dead" for the purpose of remarrying.....Interesting that when they all went out they were going to her Son Wm.J. (or J William) now I wonder if he and the father went out together...havent been able to locate immigration /passenger record for either.

Eringobragh1916,

I have sent it to you.

I have also got to the bottom of the Burrows connection, from SP :-)

1896 BURROWS JAMES CUMMINGS ISABELLA ANDERSTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 0374

Isabella married James Burrows on 08/10/1896 at Minerva Street, Anderston, in Glasgow, Scotland after The Sheriff Substitute of Lanarkshire granted a Warrant on 08 October 1896 following a declaration in the precence of Malcolm Cummings and Robert Wright Cooper.

James

James ..Have sent a PM re the above if you let me have a copy will see what I can make of it...