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Eringobragh1916 and Gins,

While searching for Kells in Ireland sites I noticed this:-

Kells, County Meath, not to be confused with Kells, County Antrim, or Kells, County Kilkenny :-S

I am going to log off for today, after 9 hours my eyes are telling me they need a rest :-(

Best Wishes and thanks to you both,

James

This is shipping record

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Sarah Kennedy
Arrival Date: 1 Dec 1913
Birth Date: abt 1911
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: shotto
Age: 2
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia

Mary Kennedy
Mary Kennedy
Jane Kennedy

Going to Husband John Kennedy and Aunt Clusker. So it looks like John did travel in Oct 1913 but the others didnt. Maybe Johns name was crossed through, along with the other, but he did in fact travel

You can search all US censuses at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
There are free images there for 1900/1940.

1940 Peter & Ruth https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZN-5HQ
[addy=606 (North) 4th St, near Carpenter]
1940 Peter & Mary https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZJ-TY9
continued on next sheet - note footer there.
[addy=2153 Renefro St - presumably now S Renfro St, between (and parallel to) 15th and 16th St's, just S of Ash]
1940 Agnes https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZV-YBH
[addy=2234 Holmes]
1940 Cath https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZP-YVK
[addy=2208 S 15th St]

1940 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZN-LXT
Don't know these folk, but they're the only other Cluskers around:
head John P Clusker M 45 Scotland
wife Mary Clusker F 45 Scotland
daughter Susan Clusker F 15 Illinois
NB possibly relevant https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3DK-W3T
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NQS4-NKS

1910-1930 Magnify image 4 clicks, then save:
1910 Anthony http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po326unit#page/n365/mode/1up
1920 Peter http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu407unit#page/n557/mode/1up
1920 Antony http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu407unit#page/n558/mode/1up
1920 Cath http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu407unit#page/n565/mode/1up
1920 Sarah K http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu406unit#page/n541/mode/1up
self John Kennedy M 38y Scotland
wife Mary Kennedy F 39y Scotland
dau Mary Kennedy F 18y Scotland
dau Jane Kennedy F 15y Scotland
dau Sarah Kennedy F 10y Scotland
dau Katie Kennedy F 9y Scotland
dau Teresa Kennedy F 5y2m Illinois
son John Kennedy M 3y7m Illinois

1930 Agnes http://archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel559#page/n755/mode/1up
1930 James http://archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel559#page/n927/mode/1up
1930 Peter http://archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel559#page/n973/mode/1up
1930 Cath http://archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel559#page/n928/mode/1up
1930 Sarah (aka Sally) http://archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel559#page/n989/mode/1up
head John Kennedy M 48 Scotland
wife Mary Kennedy F 50 Scotland
son John Kennedy M 14 Illinois
daughter Sallie Kennedy F 20 Scotland
daughter Theresa Kennedy F 16 Illinois

apparent stray, but living in area (2 pages from Peter)
1930 Jane http://archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel559#page/n971/mode/1up
head Alexander Cummings M 38 Scotland
wife Ellen M Cummings F 32 Scotland
daughter Mary A Cummings F 15 Illinois
son William J Cummings M 13 Illinois
son Anthony Cummings M 11 Illinois
son Francis Cummings M 6 Illinois
mother in law Jane Clusker F 75 Ireland

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NQJG-6P8

Morning mgnv,

Wow, thank you for that, I will try and work my way through that over the course of today as I am curios to find out if the Kennedy's and Cumming's are connected in any way to my family, .

I did find this link interesting as I have a child named Dominick in my tree and he is a Dominick Clusker the son of James Clusker married to a Mary McDade, coincidence the use of the name Dominick along with Dominick M. Dade.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NQJG-6P8

Thanks Again for this,

James

Morning James....

The info.that mgnv has supplied for you is all relative to the Cluckers.ag James and Mary ...

John P Clusker is the younger son of James and Mary.
The John Kennedy if you recall is the one who stated he was going to his "Aunt" Mary Clusker...his nok in Scotland was his mother Jane Kennedy in Motherwell....now he could be connected through the McDade side or the Clusker's...it may be easier at this time to check the Motherwell connection...

I didnt see a Dominick Clusker along the way....what happened to him.??

Morning Eringobragh1916,

Dominick Clusker was born 07/04/1887 to James Clusker and Mary McDade unfortunately he died in infancy from a fever on 30/06/1888 in Fauldhouse, West Lothian :-D

James

Eringobragh1916,

I do have the youngest son of James Clusker and Mary McDade as a
John Clusker born 1895 in Fauldhouse, West Lothian, the basic SP search I did only has him as John.

The image of his birth certificate may show more but that will have to wait as I have well exceeded my budget on SP for this month. It will be a fairly accurate assumption that the P stands for Peter as the use of that as a middle name was quite common in the Clusker family.

James

James...I have spent some time looking for and at the Cummings /Clusker conncetion..it has proved a nightmare to say the least ..gets more complicated as it goes on...best have another pair of eyes here.!!

Alex Cummings married Ellen M..? Clusker in Illinois sometime prior to birth of their ? first child Mary in 1915...

Ellen M shows her immigration year as 1907..well cant find her under Clusker/variables..have tried years earlier and following 1907.

Alex. Cummings....You are going to get confused with this one...!!

Alex (17) travelled out with his Mother isabelle bro.Malcolm and his "Step father" James Burrows on the Mauretania arriving NY 22 Aug 1908.
Going to brother Wm J Cummings ?102/103 North Walnut Springfield Sangamon Illinois.

His mother travelled under "Burrows"....

NOK in Scotland down as Alred Burrows 167 Buchanan St. Coatbridge.

Checked out family in Springfield and they are all there (1930)...dont get confused with J.William Cummings and William J.Cummings..!!!

Malcom Cummings was b Old Monkland.

Thanks for that Eringobragh1916,

Another pair of eyes is desperately needed here, three years ago they promised me an operation to remove the cataracts in both my eyes, then the cuts came in and unfortunately those needing cataracts seen to were one of the many losers.

I suppose that is what our government means when they say the NHS is safe in their hands :-(

Anyway, I have checked and I have a Helen Clusker, daughter of James Clusker and Mary McDade, born 23 June 1893 in Fauldhouse, West Lothian, on the 1901 Census for Scotland she is shown as Ellen.

James

Kennedy family in 1891

Name: John Kennedy
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Barney Kennedy
Mother's Name: Jane Kennedy
Gender: Male
Where born: Motherwell, Lanarksh
Registration number: 639
Registration district: Dalziel
Civil parish: Dalziel
Town: Motherwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 41 Logans Rows
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 42
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1891_235
Household Members: Name Age
Barney Kennedy 45 b. Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Jane Kennedy 46
Ellen Kennedy 17 b. Ireland
Agnes Kennedy 15 b. Motherwell
Francis Kennedy 11 b. Motherwell
John Kennedy 8 b. Motherwell
James Kennedy 6 b. Motherwell

1881

Name: Bernard Kennedy
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Kennedy
Gender: Male
Where born: Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 647
Registration district: Hamilton
Civil parish: Hamilton
Town: Motherwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 31 Watsonville Rows
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 22
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_260
Household Members: Name Age
Bernard Kennedy 35
Jane Kennedy 36
Sarah Ann Kennedy 14 b. Ireland
Mary Jane Kennedy 11 b. Ireland
Theresa Kennedy 9 b. Ireland
Helen Kennedy 8 b. Ireland
Agnes Kennedy 5
Francis Kennedy 1



So a birth certificate for one of the children born in Motherwell will give Jane's maiden surname and the date and place of Bernard and Jane's marriage.


Bit of guesswork here. From Familysearch.

name: Theresa
gender: Female
baptism/christening place: 115, AHOGHILL, ANT, IRE
birth date: 26 May 1871
birthplace: Ahoghill, Ant, Ire
father's name: Bernard Kennedy
mother's name: Jane Dickey
indexing project (batch) number: C70144-8
system origin: Ireland-VR
source film number: 255817


name: Mary Jane
gender: Female
baptism/christening place: 113, AHOGHILL, ANT, IRE
birth date: 18 Apr 1869
birthplace: Ahoghill, Ant, Ire
father's name: Barnett Kennedy
mother's name: Jane Dickey
indexing project (batch) number: C70138-6
system origin: Ireland-VR
source film number: 101185

rootgatherer,

That is excellent, thank you for that, I will have a look in Scotlands People at the children to try and establish Jane's maiden name and the date and place of the marriage.

Best Wishes,

James

rootgatherer,

I followed your advice and checked a couple of the Kennedy children on Scotlands People and for Francis Kennedy the parents are shown as a Bernard Kennedy and a Jane Dickie married on 11/06/1868 in Dalry.

I decided to double check so I checked out Agnes, for Agnes Kennedy the parents are shown as a Bernard Kennedy and a Jane Marron married on 08/06/1868 in Dalry.

I then checked for a marriage for Bernard in 1968, nothing under statutory marriages, the only marriage I could find was this one under Catholic Marriages and as it is a church record there is not a lot of information shown :-

08/06/1868 KENNEDY BERNARD MARRON JANE DALRY, ST PALLADIUS

St Palladius being the R C Church in Dalry

I will check Scotlands people for a death of a Jane Dickey

James :-S

James, this could be a red herring.

The two Kennedy births from Familysearch with mother Jane Dickey were in Antrim. I have stumbled across this.


Ireland 1841 / 1851 Census Abstracts.

Name: Jane Dickey
Relationship: Daughter
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Census Location: Antrim
Census Year: 1851
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dickey 40
Mary Dickey 30
Rose Dickey 17
Margaret Dickey 13
Natheniel Dickey 12
Mary Dickey 11
Jane Dickey 9
Sally Dickey 8
Martha Dickey 4




Would value Eringobragh1916's thoughts on the Kennedy family as Ireland is one of her areas of expertise.

I checked Scotlands people for a death of a Jane Kennedy nee Marron and a Jane Kennedy nee Dickey between 1875 and 1880 but nothing found, will extend my search.

Been watching the football (takes precedance over everything..!) will peruse the Kennedy's ....

James.re Helen (Ellen Clusker) daughter of James and Mary she would not be the one who married Alex Cummings because his mother in law (Ellens mother) was a Jane Clusker not Mary.

Hi Everyone,

That time again, I am going to log off now for the rest of today as my eyes are starting to play up :-(

My best wishes and thanks to everyone,

James

John Kennedy was John James Kennedy (Draft Card Reg 1942) married to Mary "REYNOLDS" Kennedy.

All there graves are on find a grave..also a obit for John jnr.

So the MC for John and Mary (Scotland ) should help find if there is a connection between McDade /Clusker....

A John Kennedy married a Mary Reynolds 1901 Calderhead only i coming up on SP that would fit.

Eringobragh1916,

Before I log off for the day, I though I should post this update so everyone can see what I have sorted out today.

I looked at the marriage on SP for, John Kennedy and Mary Reynolds 1901, but no clue there to any McDade or Clusker connection.

I then looked at John Reynolds parents marriage, a Richard Reynolds and Mary Lafferty 1873, and again I drew a blank.

However today was not a total waste of time because when checking out some of the other names on this thread I was able to sort out, the Watson connection and from that discovered that Mary Watson was in fact married twice, first to a John Gray and secondly to Peter Graham. I also was able to determine all the children on the Watson side and the Gray side.

Regards & My Thanks to all,

James

I have been working on the Cummings connection, as yet not found any marriage details for Alexander Cummings married to Ellen Clusker. I looked at the children showing in the 1930 US Census to see if that might show something, and found the obituary below for their son Francis, so the marriage did exist.

I wish my dad and his sister were still alive as they had relations from the US visit them in the 1960's, and I recall that the husband of the family yjat visited was a fireman in the US

"FRANCIS J. "BUD" CUMMINGS"

"Francis J. "Bud" Cummings, 70, of Springfield died at 6:55 a.m. Tuesday at St. John's Hospital. He was born February 17, 1924, in Springfield, the son of Alexander and Ellen Clusker Cummings. He married Audrey R. Shean in 1947. Preceding him in death were two brothers, William and Anthony Cummings; and a sister, Mary Barlow.

Mr. Cummings had been a firefighter for 14 years with the Springfield Fire Department. He retired after 20 years as a miner with Peabody Coal Co. He was a member of Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception and its Over 55 Club, DAV Hall Hagler Post 15 and American Legion Post 32. He was a veteran of World War II.

Surviving are his wife, Audrey of Springfield; a daughter, Cathleen P.Cummings of Minneapolis, Minnesota; a son, Robert D. Cummings of Chicago; two grandchildren; a sister, Mrs. Ellen Rachkus of Jacksonville; and several nieces, nephews and cousins.

Funeral Mass will be at 10 a.m. Friday at Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, with the Reverend Michael Mullink officiating. Burial will be in Calvary Cemetery. Staab Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements."

Hames

1920
http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu406unit#page/n551/mode/1up
self Alexander Cumming M 29y Scotland
wife Ellen Cumming F 26y Scotland
dau Mary A Cumming F 5y Illinois
son William Cumming M 3y5m Illinois
son Antony Cumming M 1y Illinois
[Their 1930 a of marr was 23/21 - so Mary A would be theirs - not clear from stated ages in 1930]

Incidentally, the previously given 1930 transcribed entry:
mother in law Jane Clusker F 75 Ireland
I read as
Father in law James Clusker F 75 Ireland
[Check the F in Father, and in Francis on the preceeding line]

1910 Burrows/Cummings
http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po325unit#page/n340/mode/1up


1940
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZK-JHF
head Alex Cummings M 49 Scotland
wife Ellen Cummings F 46 Scotland
son Tony Cummings M 25 Illinois
son Buddy Cummings M 16 Illinois
daughter Nellie Cummings F 7 Illinois

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZV-LJ3
head William J Cummings M 23 Illinois
wife Juanita Cummings F 20 Kansas
son William Cummings M 3 Illinois
son Charles A Cummings M 1 Illinois
mother-in-law Helen Blane F 40 Kansas
sister-in-law Verna Triplett F 16 Missouri

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZN-JFF
head Fred Barlow M 31 Illinois
wife Mary Barlow F 25 Illinois
son Fred Barlow M 4 Illinois
[just in case Mary is Mary Cummings - using Frank's obit info]


Audrey R Shean Cummings
Birth: May 1, 1926
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA
Death: Dec. 12, 2006
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Audrey R. Cummings, 80, of Springfield died Tuesday, Dec. 12, 2006, at Heritage Manor.

She was born May 1, 1926, in Springfield, the daughter of Robert E. and Rose Mary Meixner Shean. She married Francis J. Cummings in 1947; he died in 1994. A daughter, Cathleen P. Cummings, also preceded her in death.

Mrs. Cummings retired as a traffic statistician from the Illinois Department of Transportation in 1992 after 20 years. She was a member of Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Opus Dei and Altar and Rosary Society.

Survivors: son, Robert D. (wife, Kathryn) Cummings of Mount Prospect; two grandchildren; brother, Raymond (wife, Anne) Shean of Springfield; and several nieces, nephews and cousins.

Services: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, the Rev. Michael Haag officiating. Burial: Calvary Cemetery.

State Journal-Register(Springfield, IL) - December 13, 2006


Hits via a cemetery search for Calvary in Springfield, Sangamon Co, IL at:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cs
then for Cummings or Clusker

Alexander Cummings
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Ellen Cummings
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Cathleen P Cummings
Birth: Apr. 28, 1954
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA
Death: Mar. 3, 1996
Minneapolis
Hennepin County
Minnesota, USA

Cathleen P. Cummings, 41, of Minneapolis, Minn., formerly of Springfield, died Sunday at her home.

She was born April 28, 1954, in Springfield, the daughter of Francis J. and Audrey R. Shean Cummings.

She was a psychologist and program director for Alternative Inc. She also had been employed as a claims reviewer with an insurance company. She was a graduate of Quincy College and earned a master's degree from St. Mary's College in Winona, Minn.

Survivors: mother, Audrey R. Cummings of Springfield; a brother, Robert D. Cummings of Mount Prospect; several aunts and uncles; and several nephews and cousins.

Services: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, the Rev. Michael Mullink officiating. Burial: Calvary Cemetery.

State Journal-Register(Springfield, IL) - March 6, 1996


Anthony Clusker
Birth: 1889
Death: 1928
Agnes Clusker
Birth: 1891
Death: 1951
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

John Clusker
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

[Image of MI says John P Clusker.
I might remark that I've come across several instances where someone left the UK with no hint of a mid-name, but later acquire one in N America, usually a surname from somewhere in their tree.]

Mary Clusker
Birth: 1890
Death: 1942
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Mary M Clusker
Birth: Jan., 1924
Death: Dec., 1969
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA