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i know willaim dodge/jones left home at the age of 14 and joined the navy at some point but i dont dont what year or what year he came to leicester

You're right Flip, I'd confused Edwin A Dodge with George Edwin A Dodge!

EDIT: Have deleted erroneous information.

Sorry MC, but if George Edwn A dodge is a brother/half brother for Wiliiam Dodge that would consideably point to the fact that the Edwin is both their fathers - William and surviving sibling from first marriage and Edwin from the second marriage?

the george edwin a dodge is brother/half brother to my william iv just spoke to mother in law marieceleste william could be illeggitmate iv no clues to williams mother only that her maiden name was jones and for some reason william change his name from dodge to jones the story goes he also joined then navy and was a boxer and won medals

Just a thought - could William have been illegitimate? Yes, I know his dad may have been a missionary or lay minister but .........

That could explain why he was Jones later on. Although the Kerry records aren't on-line surely his birth should be listed in the Irish civil registrations 1864-1958

An odd thing is that on the original image of the 1901 Irish census that Edwin says widower but also "not married" ??

The original image of the English 1911 gives his birthplace as East Coker.

thanks guys and gals il have to ask mother in law and aunt to get marriage cert xxxx happy new year all xxxx

George Edwin A Dodge
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Cleethorpes
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Daubney St New Clleethorpes Grimsby
Registration district: Grimsby
Registration District Number: 422
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Piece: 19984
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Lauisa Dodge 42
Lilian Clara Louisa Dodge 8
George Edwin A Dodge 6



Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
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Atkinson Walter Bradford 9b 23
CLOUGH Annie Louisa Bradford,Y. 9b 23 <<<
DODGE Edwin Augustus Bradford, Y 9b 23 <<<
FRANKISH Esther Ann Bradford,Y. 9b 23

Edwin Augustus Dodge << coastguard, widower of Dingle Co Kerry
Birth Year: abt 1864
Age: 37
Marriage or Bann Date: 4 Apr 1901
Parish: Bowling, St Stephen
Father's Name: Alfred Dodge <<carpenter
Spouse's Name: Annie Louisa Clough << 32, spinster of 32 Ackworth st??
Spouse's Father's Name: John Clough <<book binder, dec.

Just checked RootsIreland.ie - the Co Kerry records are not on-line. So we wouldn't find a birth for William or any other records for them over in Ireland.

Forget that last request, I've got it now. She also states married 10 years (in brackets this marriage) but just 2 children (both alive), but husband was not present on night of census. Also, her first child Lilian Clara Louise (8) was born Co Kerry, Ireland.

Wonder if he referred to his total children, ie 6 in total which may include 4 from the previous marriage and 2 of them have died?

I agree with Astra, the marriage certificate is a must, but it does start to point to this being connected with the info the aunt provided - even if the father's name was wrong.

Hi Astra,

Can you post up the census you've found please I don't seen to be able to find it. I've got Edwin in a seaman's hostel, on the image it says married 10 years, 6 children - 2 of which have died - but no family with him. He's the caretaker and naval pensioner. It also states born East Collie, Somerset which is too much different from the East Coker on the Irish census.

Cheers

I think the marriage certificate is needed as it will give you his correct age and his father's name and occupation (that all depends of course on whether he knew his father).
It is the only way forward.

You can order it online through the GRO for £9.25

Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%)
Jones William A Breward Leicester 7a 620

There's this Edwin, on the Ireland census:

Residents of a house 15 in Emlagh West (Dingle, Kerry)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Dodge Edwin 34 Male Head of Family Salvation Armey East Coker, Somerset Coast Guard Read and write English Widower -

Wonder, as his religion is Salvation Army, and occ Coast Guard whether this is the Edwin Astra found in 1911?? Could have re-married.

But this doesn't tie in with Sarah's info - maybe you need to go back and talk to the aunt again.

Actually, thinking more about it you may have got the father's name wrong and as William's mother died when he was so young he may have been farmed out with other family members - I'll take another look at the Ireland census.

No, not finding anything - tried looking under Jones as well just in case that was his mother's maiden name & he was with grandparents.

grimbsy humberside yes i got the info from an aunt i can find him anywhere on any census not sure when he came to uk he married a annie breward in 1924 leicester she was from cosby born 1905 william dodge change his name to jones when i dont know

There is a Dodge family in Grimsby in 1911 but not a William. Father Edwin is a naval pensioner and son is George Edwin born 1905. Mother is still alive.

Not seeing a William Dodge born c1900 in Ireland ....... (or anywhere)

Have you found him on the 1901 and 1911 censuses?
Do you know when William Dodge, senior, was a missionary in Grimsby (I am assuming you mean Grimsby, Humberside - do you mean somewhere else?)?
How did you get back to him?
Sorry about the extra questions

can anyone help me plz
looking for a william dodge /jones born about 1900 ireland joined the navy not sure when father william dodge was a missionary in grimbsy mother died when he was 3 mothers maiden name jones