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name: James Christy
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Manhattan (Districts 0501-0750), New York, New York
gender: Male
age: 40
marital status: Married
race: White
birthplace: Ireland
estimated birth year: 1890
immigration year: 1901
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Ireland
mother's birthplace: Ireland
enumeration district number: 0741
family number: 49
sheet number and letter: 3B
line number: 55
head James Christy M 40 Ireland ...Immigration year 1901
wife Bridget Christy F 38 Ireland Immigration year 1908
daughter Mary Christy F 8 New York
daughter Elizabeth Christy F 7 New York
daughter Catherine Christy F 6 New York
daughter Theresa Christy F 4 New York

Guess where I have been..!
Well dont know who in the name of the wee man I have been searching for but here is James Joseph Christy b Coalisland abt.1888/90 and travelled out with father Patrick from L..Pool on The Cymric Dec1901.

He never moved from Manhatten......

name: James J Christy
residence: , New York, New York
estimated birth year: 1888
age: 32
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household:
gender: Male
race: White
marital status: Single
father's birthplace: Ireland
mother's birthplace: Ireland
film number: 1821197
digital folder number: 4313920
image number: 00211
sheet number: 4
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Patrick H Falls M 38y Ireland
wife Elizabeth Falls F 38y Ireland
dau Mary W Falls F 10y New York
dau Theresa C Falls F 9y New York
dau Elizabeth A Falls F 6y New York
James J Christy M 32y Ireland
Theresa Christy F 29y Ireland
Patrick Christy M 28y Ireland
John Christy M 24y New York


Looks like they were lodging..dont have a clue where his ? bros and sisters came from...

He eventually married a Bridget abt 1920 and is on 1830/1940 Census....To follow

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951
about Patrick Christy Name: Patrick Christy
Gender: Male
Spouse: Catharine McCusker
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1893
Marriage License Number: 63520
Digital GSU Number: 4140411

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Maura, you are probably correct. Confusion was whether he was a cousin or a brother, dob varies by 10 years on the us census for this individual. and his date of death doesn't line up with Irish information. What database gave you Katherines m.s.?

Maura, you are probably correct. Confusion was whether he was a cousin or a brother, dob varies by 10 years on the us census for this address. and his date of death doesn't line up with Irish information. What database gave you Katherines m.s.?

Mary its a waste of time starting a thread on Patrick when some of his information is already on this thread. He was born 1867 to Thomas Christie and Margaret Hamil, if that him in the census he married Katherine McCusker 1893 Phil, and according to the census he emigrated 1887.

I'm going to bed, I've suddenly developed a migrane LOL

Mary....Just had to laugh...!!
Despite reading through the thread I cannot even work out now who the "Eldest" Margaret is/was.. and Patrick Christy well all I can say is here we go again !!
Hope Maura manages to cast her eye over the thread...

to Maura, MC and EGB:
your research is great! I've been able to better track the family. The Margaret Christy Barnard Barnshaw mystery is unravelling.and I'm still referring to your research.
her first husband I located in a NYC directory listed as "Alfred Barnard, Coachman" with an address that is only a block or 2 away from her 2nd husband James Barnshaw, chauffeur. I still have to plot out trips back and forth to Ireland to try and discover the reasons for her trips at those times. Still can't find out what became of husband #1 or what became of her daughter Margaret Barnard b 1891 after her trip here to the US in 1908.
I'm posting a new thread for Patrick Christy... I think may have been the elder margaret's brother.....

Yes all the children belong to Christy/Hamil, I wouldn't worry to much about her age being 60, it all depend on who the informant was, he/she my not of known her real age and just guess. My grt.grandmother registered her father death giving his age as 54 which would of made him 14 when she was born.

john b1858
his mother b 1845? she was 13 yr old? when she died in 1908 I think the death cert said she was 60 so birth year would have been 1848, something wrong here...was she a second wife? were all those children parented by Hamill/Christy?

Margaret Barnett & Margaret Barnard are the same person, the head of the household her granny states she couldn't read, but if you look at the original image she signs her name with a mark, so she could write either. It was a R.I.C. man that fill out the census, so he wasn't a Tyrone man and probably didn't understand there brogue.

we are most likely looking at transcription errors. On the Irish census "mcaleavey" is spelled wrong so perhaps Margaret Barnett on the same census is really Margaret Barnard.

I wouldn't doubt that Oliver and Jaems Barnshaw crossed paths.
Margaret b 1892 at the beginning of the year and her mother remarrying at the end of the same year. She could have left her child with her mother's family till she could afford to bring her to the states. That is what happened with my family. My grandmother returned to Tyrone with 5 children in 1908 and stayed there at least a year while my grandfather came to the states and tried to find work in Pittsburgh. When that didn't work out, he went back to Ireland and then moved the family back to Scotland.

MarieCeleste...Lost the will to live at this moment...!!
Dont know anything anymore...!!

Might Oliver have worked for James and then Margaret married his conveniently widowed boss?

The odd thing is that on the 1900 census Margaret Barnshaw says she is the mother of 2 children. The 2 youngest on that census, James and Mabel, certainly seem to be hers and they appear with her on later census.

So where does Margaret b1892 fit in?

EGB and Maura: food for thought as I run out the door...

occupations: Oliver Barnard: Coachman and James Barnshaw: chauffeur. I believe Barnshaw was an independent and had his own company.
This info coupled with the elderly rambling of my Aunt Tess (Theresa McAleavey Blauert) who we thought was talking about her own mother -- strange story about how she was "courting" 2 gentleman with the same/similar names.. (her version the name was Hamill, but she was a little confused at the time). The story being that Margaret wouldn't marry until she had seen the gentleman's bank books (plural!). So maybe this referred to James Barnshaw.

Yes ...well ....you couldnt make it up could you !!! Unbelievable...

Will run with Oliver and see where it takes me...although I would be thinking the Tanaghmore one is more likely but with this family...(if its the right one who knows.)

Erin, your going to kill me LOL, there 2 entries for Margaret Barnett/Barnard, her fathers a Oliver Barnard

Name: Margaret Barnett
Date of Birth: 02-Sep-1891
Address: Tamnamore
Parish/District: DUNGANNON
Father: Alfred Barnett
Mother: Margaret Christy
SponsorsThomas & Teresa Christy


Name: Margaret Bernard
Date of Birth: 01-Sep-1891
Date of Baptism: 11-Sep-1891
Address: Tamnamore
Parish/District: COALISLAND
Gender: Female
County TYRONE
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Oliver Bernard
Occupation: Coachman
Mother: Margaret Christie
Informant Margaret
Notes: SPONSORS RELATIONSHIP GIVEN AS GRANDMOTHER ALSO PRESENT AT BIRTH..SPONSORS FIRST NAME E. FATHERS ADDRESS GIVEN AS NEW YORK, U.S.A.