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gt.gt. grpts John Dunn and Margaret Callahan

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Sheila

Sheila Report 29 Dec 2012 17:08

Thanks again. Yes I have info on Richard but I note from the 1891 census that his 2nd son was Albert. I didn't have that info so looked him up and found his middle name was Hugh. I have no info on mother Margaret at all.

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 16:05

Not finding John after the possible 1901.

Guess you have the info on Richard if he was your great grandad and his son Walter was grandad

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 15:59

??? Am wondering about this one for John Jnr (b 1859). The age is out, but is in Derby where ? last seen in 1891 and born London

1901 census transcription details for: 7, Albion Place, Derby

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3213
Folio: 14
Page: 19
Reg. District: Derby
Sub District: Derby
Parish: Derby
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Peters
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 7, Albion Place, Derby
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CROFT, Joseph Head Married M 34 1867 General Foundry Labourer Derby
CROFT, Louisa Wife Married F 29 1872 Fish Hawker Derby
CROFT, Joseph Son Single M 10 1891 Derby
CROFT, Jonny Son Single M 6 1895 Derby
CROFT, Lily Daughter Single F 1 1900 Derby
CROFT, Sidney Son Single M 0 (8 MOS) 1901 Derby
DUNN, John Lodger Single M 48 1853 Slaters Labourer London

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 15:29

Tell a lie!!!
2 marriages Scotland for a Hugh Dunn (or varient) and an Agnes

Your OPR Banns & Marriages Search Returns
You searched for: Surname: "dunn"; Surname Option: Variants; Forename: "hugh"; Forename Option: Prefix; Sex: "Any"; Spouse's Surname: "agnes"; Date From: 01 January 1807; Date To: 31 December 1825;


Jump to page: of 1 (2 records)
No Date Surname Forename Spouse NameFrame No S ex Parish City/County GROS Data
1 10/12/1813 DOUNS HUGH AGNES MCCARTOR/FR1704 (FR1704) M ABBEY /RENFREW 559/00 0040 0586
2 21/06/1807 DUN HUGH AGNES RUSSEL/FR1881 (FR1881) M BARONY GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 622/00 0070 0298

Scotlands People is a PAy to view site - 30 credits for £7. A page of results, up to 15 or so will cost 1 credit and you will see the above. 5 credits will allow you to look at each record in full and download the ceretificate

Sheila

Sheila Report 29 Dec 2012 15:10

Shirley,
thanks for the information about Agnes.

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 15:09

Not seeing any matches for Hugh Dunn to an Agnes 1800-1825 on Scotlands People

Sheila

Sheila Report 29 Dec 2012 14:58

Thanks Stuart and Barry,
That's interesting Hugh being an engine fitter as I know that some family worked for the railway. My grandfather Walter Dunn was also an engine fitter.

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:58

1841 census transcription details for: Maguire Street, Liverpool

NOTE - Hugh an Engineer. John an Apprentice Engineer b c 1826
NOTE - name of his (probable) wife and name of John's first child

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 557
Book/Folio: 4/35
Page: 11
Reg. District: Liverpool
Sub District: Howard Street, Great Vauxhall Ward
Parish: Liverpool
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: Maguire Street, Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DUNN, Hugh M 45 1796 Scotland
DUNN, Agness F 50 1791 Scotland
DUNN, John M 15 1826 Scotland
DUNN, Janet F 20 1821 Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:53

Hugh Dunn 1851. Original too appears to say married. Engine Fitter is a coincidence

1851 census transcription details for: 529, Glym Square, Wolverton

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1737
Folio: 266
Page: 69
Reg. District: Pottersbury
Sub District: Potterspury
Parish: Wolverton
Enum. District: 9BF
Ecclesiastical District: St George
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 529, Glym Square, Wolverton
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MARTIN, James Head Married M 37 1814 Smith Scotland
MARTIN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1818 Staunton, Buckinghamshire
MARTIN, Ann Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Wolverton, Buckinghamshire
DUNN, Hugh Lodger Married M 60 1791 Engine Fitter Scotland
THOMAS, Owen Lodger M 36 1815 Engine Driver Angleshire Wales
DAVIES, Thomas Lodger Married M 42 1809 Engine Driver Gladestry, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:50

Found Richard at last - unable to suggest correction to FMP as writing too poor

1891 census transcription details for: 83, Darby Street, New Normanton, Derby

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2739
Folio: 83
Page: 44
Reg. District: Derby
Sub District: Derby
Parish: New Normanton
Enum. District: 90
Ecclesiastical District: St Chads
City/Municipal Borough: Derby
Address: 83, Darby Street, New Normanton, Derby
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DRUND, Richard Head Married M 27 1864 Iron Turner Southwark, London
DRUND, Sarah A Wife Married F 26 1865 Derby, Derbyshire
DRUND, Walter E Son M 4 1887 Derby, Derbyshire
DRUND, Albert H Son M 3 1888 Derby, Derbyshire
DRUND, Margaret L Daughter F 2 1889 Derby, Derbyshire
DRUND, Richard L Son M 0 (6M) 1891 Derby, Derbyshire
HICKEN, John T Brother In Law M 12 1879 Scholar Derby,Derbyshire

Barry

Barry Report 29 Dec 2012 14:41

There is a Hugh Dunn born abt 1791 in Scotland on the 1851 Census for Wolverton Buckinghamshire
He is a widower - occ engine fitter

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:40

The marriage I posted for 1854 in Pottersbury RD is the same as posted by Barry in Wolverton I'm pretty sure

It looked too much of a coincidence - mine Mar Qtr 1854 and his Feb 1854! Northants and Bucks do share a boundary - Wolverton is a civil parish in Pottersbury RD

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:26

Births of
Agnes - Jun 1857 St Saviours S, London 1d20
John - ? Dec 1859 St Saviours 1d 17
Richard - Mar 1864 St Saviours 1d 12

1891 census for Agnes shows born Southwark and St Saviours is the alternate name for St Saviours Southwark RD. It spans London/Surrey
Agnes and Richard are the only ones born with those names in London area, so going with John born same area

Barry

Barry Report 29 Dec 2012 14:18

Is this your John and Margaret ? from familysearch

John Dunn married Margaret Callahan Feb 18 1854 Wolverton Buckingham
John's father - Hugh
Margaret's father Richard
Batch no 104537-0

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:10

Civil Registration event: Death
Possible death for Abraham in Sheffield

Name: SMITH, Abraham
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1912
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 59
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 766

and for Agnes Civil Registration event: Death

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Name: SMITH, Agnes
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1916
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 59
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 660

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2012 14:05

Same address as 1901 when you look at the original of 1901

1911 census transcription details for: 26 Court 1 Savile St E Sheffield

Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN27970 RG78PN1599 RD510 SD6 ED11 SN52
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: East Brightside
Parish: Sheffield
Enum. District: 11
Address: 26 Court 1 Savile St E Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SMITH, Abraham Head Married M 60 1851 Fetler Steel Stanningley Nr Leeds
SMITH, Agnes Wife Married 32 years F 54 1857 London
SMITH, Florence Agnes Daughter Single F 26 1885 Kitchen Maid Restaurant Sheffield
SMITH, Harry Grandson M 3 1908 Sheffield
HAMER, Ethel May Visitor F 9 1902 School Girl Shifnal Salop

5 children born, 2 have died

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Dec 2012 13:53

Name: Abraham Smith
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Stanningby, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Emmanuel
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:71 Saville Street East

Occupation:Steel dresser

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: East Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 4379
Folio: 146
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Smith 50
Agnes Smith 44
Richard Smith 20
George Smith 18
Florence G Smith 16

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4379; Folio: 146; Page: 14.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Dec 2012 13:47


1891 census
Name: Abraham Smith
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Stanningley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East End
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3621
Folio: 133
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Smith 39
Agnes Smith 34 southwark London
Richard Smith 10
Geo Smith 8
Florance A Smith 6

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3621; Folio: 133; Page: 5; GSU

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Dec 2012 13:40

I posted Agnes marriage to Abraham Smith

possible death

name: Abraham A Smith
Birth Date: abt 1853
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1927
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 471

Sheila

Sheila Report 29 Dec 2012 13:29

Thanks Stuart,
Pleased to get any info. Richard was my gt grandfather but no nothing of Agnes or John. I don't know where John and Margaret were before London.