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brummiejan
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23 Dec 2012 15:32 |
All been there Gins!
I am really doubtful about that Harrington family, don't know about you. I posted another census for an Emely Wright in Hounslow but quickly removed it as age so far out (um, 10 years!!), but a shame as it looked so promising. Tried hard to make age 5 not 15 but no joy!
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23 Dec 2012 15:33 |
Lol Gins...no dont think doctors daughter would marry labourer and a doctor in my family?? lol i wouldnt of thought so
Looking through others family trees on ancestry some have Emily's middle name as Elizabeth also, however i can not see anything so far that confirms this?
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23 Dec 2012 15:35 |
Hang on - am going to put again.
Could the '1' in 15 be a line?? I am speculating that Mary (unmarried) might be her mother.
She does put Heston as birthplace on at least one census after marriage.
1851 England Census
Name: Emely Wright Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: F (Female) Where born: Hounslow, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Heston Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Hounslow County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Mary A Wright 56 b. Canterbury Mary Wright 33 b. Canterbury Emely Wright 15
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23 Dec 2012 15:47 |
That does look promising, listed as grandaughter...
i currently cant find frederick or emily on the 1911 census to see if there are any extra family members on there, yet the death i believe to be correct for frederick isnt until 1920. Nightmare!!
Edit: I think it looks like a line rather than a 1 and a 5 but dont know if im just wishful thinking?
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23 Dec 2012 15:52 |
I can't even see them 1901!!
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23 Dec 2012 15:54 |
This is them in 1901 1901 England Census about Emily Chilton Name: Emily Chilton Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Frederick Chilton Gender: Female Where born: Hounslow, London, England Civil parish: Tooting Graveney Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas Tooting Graveney County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Streatham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 138a Piece: 470 Folio: 43 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Chilton 56 Emily Chilton 56 Walter Chilton 27
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23 Dec 2012 15:56 |
Who is this - do you think it's just co-incidental or maybe a rellie??? He is possibly the William on the census I put earlier, but the Emily on there has an incorrect birth year.
1881 England Census
Name: William Wright Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Hounslow, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Heston County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Wellington Lane East 2 Castle Place
Occupation: Builders Lab Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth
Frederick Chilton 37 Emily Chilton 36 Louisa Chilton 15 Frederick Chilton 13 Amelia Chilton 11 Walter Chilton 9 Ada Chilton 7 Emily Chilton 5 Arthur Chilton 3 Herbert Chilton 1 William Wright 22
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23 Dec 2012 16:03 |
Im not sure who the William Wright is at present he is old enough to be a younger brother of Emily's, but not too sure whether it might be coincedence or a cousin or something (Only if that is Emily's brother it would mean another with his mum maiden name and therefore no father 14 years after Emily was born?)
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23 Dec 2012 16:10 |
Is this Emily' death
Deaths Dec 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chilton Emily E 73 Greenwich 1d 1000
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23 Dec 2012 16:11 |
Not sure if it is a help, or just muddying the waters even more, but the above William along with his brothers Walter & George is in Brentford Union Workhouse in 1871. I have a feeling in me waters about these people, but just can't quite pin them down! The Emily in the 1861 would be their cousin obviously. Jan
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23 Dec 2012 16:17 |
1911 England Census
Name: Emily Chilton Age in 1911: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation to Head: Nurse Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 121 Napier Street, Deptford SE Marital Status: Married Years Married: 47 Estimated Marriage Year: 1864 Occupation: SICK NURSE Registration district: Greenwich Registration District Number: 28 Sub-registration district: Deptford East ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 2630 Household Members: Name Age James France Cole 41 Gertrude Cole 31 Horrace Cole 1 Cole 0 Emily Chilton 65 Ida Cole 0
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23 Dec 2012 16:18 |
Could this be Frederick on 1911 census transcribed as Clifton ? On Familysearch it is transcribed as Chilton?
1911 England Census about Frederick Clifton Name: Frederick Clifton Age in 1911: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: HESTON, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 5 Royal Naval Place, New Cross SE Marital Status: Married Occupation: LABOURER GENERAL Registration district: Greenwich Registration District Number: 28 Sub-registration district: Deptford East ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 2631 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Clifton 66
EDIT: that death for Emily looks possible too, and looking at the images of the 2 1911 census one says married for 46 years the other 47 years, one 11 children one 10 children, one 3 children died, one 2 children died ...i think they sound close enough and that either one of them lost count lol
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23 Dec 2012 16:24 |
That census for Fred, ties in with the one I posted for Emily.
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23 Dec 2012 16:30 |
So that death for Emily gives her a middle initial of E?!
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23 Dec 2012 16:35 |
Has this been posted already?
1861 England Census about Emily Wright Name: Emily Wright Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Hounslow, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Isleworth Ecclesiastical parish: Hounslow County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 90 Piece: 771 Folio: 110 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Wright 40 Sophia Eliz Wright 34 Walter Wright 4 William G Wright 3 George Wright 4 Months Emily Wright 20 Ellen Eldridge 19 Ellen M Eldridge 11
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23 Dec 2012 16:38 |
Posted that previously Gins - I know why you did, there's a lot here and difficult to sort out! I proposed that the William G. on that census is the same person lodging with the family in 1881, and perhaps Emily's cousin? As stated above, he and his brothers are orphaned by 1871 and living in Brentford Workhouse. I think that 1861 is a strong contender, despite birth year for Emily. Jan
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23 Dec 2012 16:43 |
I think that looks promising, i can see this is going to be a sad story with this family :(
EDIT: The Mary Ann Wright on there is a laundress which is what she was on the one we found earlier with Mary Ann Wright, Mary Wright and Emily Wright on? Only thing is The poss mother we found for Emily on the other one was born abt 1818, and the Grandmother was born abt 1795. This Mary Ann Wright is described as being born 1821 and aunt of Emily Wright?
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23 Dec 2012 16:45 |
I am easily confused Jan!
What about this for her birth? Im not good with reg districts for London
Births Sep 1844 (>99%) Wright Emily Elizabeth St Geo. East 2 80 London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Emily Elizabeth Wright Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 8 Sep 1844 <<DOB Aug 14th 1844 Father's Name: John Wright <<Lighttender Mother's Name: Mary Ann Wright Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East <<4 Bird St Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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23 Dec 2012 16:56 |
Im confusing myself...So despite the census earlier saying that Emily's mother Mary Wright was unmarried she may well have been married or at least taken fathers name and where i thought it was Mary's mother they were living with it might actually be his mother?
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23 Dec 2012 16:59 |
1851 England Census about Emily Wright Name: Emily Wright Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Wright Mother's Name: Mary Ann Wright Gender: F (Female) Where born: St George, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St George in the East County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St George In The East Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 76 Piece: 1549 Folio: 123 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age John Wright 33 Mary Ann Wright 33 Samuel Wright 9 Emily Wright 7 Maria A Wright 5 John Wright 2
Im confused too! Is anyone any good with reg districts in London please?
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