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MargaretM
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21 Dec 2012 01:32 |
This looks like him in 1891:
1891 Census of Canada about Wallace Amrent Name: Wallace Amrent Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 28 Birth Year: abt 1863 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Religion: Church of England French Canadian: No Spouse's Name: Mary Amrent Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Province: Ontario District Number: 119 District: Toronto City Subdistrict: St Lawrence Ward Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Wallace Amrent 28 Mary Amrent 24 Andrew Hughes 15 Surname on original could very well be Vincent. Mary and Andrew born Quebec. Wallace is a miller.
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mgnv
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21 Dec 2012 02:05 |
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148173-00527.pdf
Margee - I think it is Vincent with an "A" overwritten. I note Andrew works in the Street car stables - one forgets they were once horsedrawn.
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Chris Ho :)
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21 Dec 2012 07:27 |
(newspaper article, states)...
Vincent - Hughes. at Grace Church, Toronto, Canada, by the Rev. L.P Lewis, rector. Wallace, only son of Samuel Baker Vincent, of Rickinghall, to Mary, only daughter of Mr. Hughes, of Lancaster, Ontario, Canada.
Chris :)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1232629
(above for Newspapers, Free to join!)
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries . The Bury and Norwich Post, and Suffolk Standard (Bury Saint Edmunds, England), Tuesday, August 30, 1898
Vincent. On the 20th August, in Norwich, Mrs. Ellen Mary Vincent, widow of Mr. Samuel Baker Vincent, of Rickinghall, aged 60 years.
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Gee
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21 Dec 2012 09:59 |
1901 Census of Canada about Mary Vincent Name: Mary Vincent Gender: Female Marital Status: Widowed Age: 28 Birth Day & Month: 27 Jun Birth Year: 1872 Birthplace: Qc Relation to Head of House: Head Racial or Tribal Origin: Irish Nationality: Canadian Religion: Church Of England Occupation: Operator Lacmendry Mechin Province: Ontario District: Toronto (east/est) (city/cité) District Number: 117 Sub-District: Toronto (East/est) (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 2 Sub-District Number: B-3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Vincent 28 Donald Hughes 24 <<Brother. Horse trainer
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adrian
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21 Dec 2012 15:43 |
Now I'm even more impressed by the Detectives of Genes Reunited ... So , to summarise from what I already knew/suspected and the collective discoveries above : Frank Vincent Bean , my grandfather , was born 1881 , son of Fanny Isabella Bean ,from Rickinghall Suffolk age 16/17, and perhaps Wallace Vincent ( 16/17 ) , an apprentice Miller , living with his well to do family in the nearby village of Botesdale ( less than a mile away from Rickinghall) Fanny married Frederick Cornish and in 1891 were living in nearby Ixworth with Frank and their own children . They later moved to Limehouse in London , whereas Frank lived the rest of his life in Ixworth , apart from his time in the Army .( He died in the same house where I was living , in 1956 but as I was only 2 years old I have no memory of him ) Wallace had three sisters , of whom Alice and Ellen were spinsters . Gertrude married , but her sole child , Margaret , died unmarried in 1959 . Wallace married Canadian (?) Mary Hughes in Lancaster OntarioDec 1886 and may have travelled back to UK sometime afterwards for unknown reasons. In 1891 Wallace is living with wife and her brother , and is working as a Miller . By 1901 , he has died . So it looks like there can be no living blood relations of Wallace .
Two queries- if anyone can help further : Frank Vincent Bean was discharged from the Army 12/2/05 having served abroad for 3 years ( I have a photo of him in India ) as being " Medically Unfit for Further Service ". I wonder what the problem was ? In fact he reinlisted 26/7/16 but on 27/10/17 was discharged again ( " Rejection by Recruiting Medical Board as permanently and totally disabled for Military Service under Review of Exceptions Act 1917 " I have the original certificate showing this ) .
Also , is there any way to find more details of Wallace's death - cause/place of burial etc ? Even though he may not actually have been my Great Grandfather , it would be nice to have this information - just in case .
Thanks to All
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Gee
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21 Dec 2012 17:48 |
I posted his cause of death
20 Dec 2012 15:31........see page 1
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MargaretM
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21 Dec 2012 18:40 |
Also Tracey had posted his marriage which was in Toronto not Lancaster, about 300 miles away.
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adrian
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21 Dec 2012 19:23 |
Thanks Margee and Gins - I must have been getting Information Overload and missing things . This is all now making up a nicely rounded story .
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mgnv
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22 Dec 2012 13:43 |
Repeating Gins post:
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON TORONTO (East/Est) (City/Cité) (#117) Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 2 B-3 Page 6 23 63 Vincent Mary F Head W Jun 27 1872 28 24 63 Hughes Donald M Brother S Jan 22 1877 24
Sched 1 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z003/z000105345.pdf [MV dob=27/6/1872 - DH dob=22/1/1877; pob=QC for both; CofE for both - I read Mary as Laundry Machine Operator] Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z003/z000105335.pdf [P6L23 - addy=24 Sackville St - runs N from Dundas St 1mile W of Don Valley Pkwy]
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MargaretM
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22 Dec 2012 15:45 |
You disappoint me, mgnv. I thought, after I said that Toronto & Lancaster were about 300 miles apart, that it wasn't quite right but thought, never mind, mgnv will correct me. He didn't!
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mgnv
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22 Dec 2012 23:17 |
Margee - yeah, sorry abt that. Normally I would, but I don't really know how far apart they are. I usually check on my Ont map which I got free from CAA (well, BCAA out here) - in fact I've got a map for every state and province, but I moved earlier this month, and I've not unpacked them yet, eh, so no correction. I've only been to Lancaster the once, I think, abt 30 y ago, but that would have been by rail, so I've not got a real idea of the distances involved.
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