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16 Dec 2012 14:29 |
Thanks for that and thanks once again for all the help.
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15 Dec 2012 18:53 |
1891 Thomas
Name: Thomas Hickenbottom Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: N, Breedon Civil parish: Breedon on the Hill Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Breedon on the Hill County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district: Melbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2720 Folio: 117 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Powdrill 68 Priscilla Powdrill 70 Job Preston 40 Thomas Hickenbottom 45
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15 Dec 2012 18:13 |
I wonder if this is Mary?
ame: Mary Higginbotham Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1885 Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Shardlow Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 274
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15 Dec 2012 17:36 |
Didn't take as long as I thought I would. :-) Have checked back through everything and the only two outstanding are:
Mary Hickenbottom born c1813 Breedon, shown living with her father in 1861 and Thomas Hickenbottom born c1845 Breedon, appears on 1851 living with his grandparents and Mary.
?Mary and Thomas in 1881 Name: Thomas Hickingbotham Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary Hickingbotham Gender: Male Where born: Breedon, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Breedon County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: Church Street Education:
Employment status:
Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Labourer (Genl) Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district: Melbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3386 Folio: 131 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Mary Hickingbotham 65 Thomas Hickingbotham 36 View Original Record
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15 Dec 2012 15:01 |
Thanks so much. :-D Have to pop out for a while, will check back later if I have time.
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15 Dec 2012 14:53 |
Looks like Joseph moved to Derbyshire.
1891
1891 census transcription details for: Main Street, Breedon On The Hill
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2720 Folio: 115 Page: 5 Reg. District: Shardlow Sub District: Melbourne Parish: Breedon on the Hill Enum. District: 10 Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Address: Main Street, Breedon On The Hill County: Derbyshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born CLULOW, William Head Married M 50 1841 Labourer General Willoughby on the Wolds, Leicestershire CLULOW, Fanny Wife Married F 44 1847 Breedon, Leicestershire CLULOW, George J W Son Single M 19 1872 Labourer General Breedon, Leicestershire CLULOW, Rose A Daughter F 12 1879 Breedon, Leicestershire CLULOW, Lilian M Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Breedon, Leicestershire CLULOW, Isaac H Son M 7 1884 Scholar Breedon, Leicestershire CLULOW, Fanny E Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar Breedon, Leicestershire CLULOW, Nelly Daughter Single F 1 1890 Breedon, Leicestershire HICKINBOTHAM, Joseph Lodger Single M 67 1824 Labourer General Breedon, Leicestershire
Joseph's death..
Civil registration event: Death Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Joseph Registration district: [?] Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Year of registration: 1893 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death:71 Volume no: 7B Page no: 180
Born 1822 by my reckoning.
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15 Dec 2012 14:46 |
1901 - the two sisters
Name: Esther Hyde Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Nottingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Piece: 3176 Folio: 181 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Ernest Cookson 28 Annie Cookson 21 Alice Elsie Cookson 9 Months Esther Hyde 19
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15 Dec 2012 14:45 |
Deaths Mar 1899 (>99%) Hyde John 49 Nottingham 7b 192
Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%) Hyde Sarah 43 Nottingham 7b 288
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15 Dec 2012 14:42 |
Whooopy!! Could have them in 1901 & 1911 please.
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15 Dec 2012 14:41 |
On the 1891 image for Sarah Wyde(Hyde)she was born Warton so Joy you had the right marriage.
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15 Dec 2012 14:38 |
1881 - James with first wife who appears to have died later in the year
Name: James Hyde Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Esther Hyde Gender: Male Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Lenton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 1 Park Square Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Lace Maker Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Lenton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3341 Folio: 27 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age James Hyde 31 Esther Hyde 31 Charles Hyde 9 John Hyde 8 Annie Hyde 1
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15 Dec 2012 14:24 |
1891?
Name: Sarah Wyde Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Wyde Gender: Female Where born: Warton, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Radford Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Radford County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Nottingham North West ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2687 Folio: 119 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age James Wyde 41 Lace Maker b Nottinghamshire Sarah Wyde 33 Charles W Wyde 19 Anne Elizabeth Wyde 16 Esther Wyde 9
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15 Dec 2012 13:36 |
Wow! Thanks people. Looking at this marriage for Sarah born 1858, Warton, Warwickshire.
Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%) HICKINBOTTOM Sarah Nottingham 7b 586 HYDE James Nottingham 7b 586
?Surname mistranscribed in 1891 Census.
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View Image NAME: Sarah Wyde SPOUSE: James Wyde BIRTH: abt 1858 - Warton , Warwickshire, England RESIDENCE: 1891 - township, city, Nottinghamshire, England
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15 Dec 2012 13:07 |
Thomas W birth...
Civil Registration event: Birth Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Thomas William Registration district: Atherstone County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1848 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 16 Page no: 237
He is on the 1851 census above..
death for him..
Civil Registration event: Death Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Thomas William Registration district: Atherstone County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1852 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume no: 6D Page no: 171
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15 Dec 2012 12:58 |
Sarah Poultney(Joseph SNR's wife.
1841
1841 census transcription details for: Slateley, Kingsbury Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1130 Book/Folio: 4/20 Page: 7 Reg. District: Tamworth Sub District: Fazeley Parish: Kingsbury Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Slateley, Kingsbury County: Warwickshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BARNES, Henry M 20 1821 Warwickshire BARNES, Dudley M 15 1826 Warwickshire BARNES, Maria F 20 1821 Warwickshire >>>>POULTNEY, Sarah F 15 1826 Warwickshire PALMER, John M 50 1791 Warwickshire COATES, James M 25 1816 Warwickshire
Marriage for Sarah and Joseph..
Civil registration event: Marriage Name: POULTNEY, Sarah Registration district: [?] Atherstone County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1847 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name Not available before 1912 Volume no: [?] 16 Page no: [?] 273 MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] Sarah Poultney married one of the following people
HARTSHORN, James VIEW >>>>>HICKINBOTTOM, Joseph VIEW OLVER, Abraham VIEW LUNN, Sarah VIEW ONION, Hannah
1851 for Sarah but the enumerator has put Thomas in for her hubby not Joseph..think he must have got mistaken with Son's name of Thomas W...Mary Ann born the right year.
1851 census transcription details for: Warton, Polesworth
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2064 Folio: 93 Page: 5 Reg. District: Atherstone Sub District: Atherstone Parish: Polesworth Enum. District: 6A Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Warton, Polesworth County: Warwickshire
HICKINBOTTOM, Thomas Head Married M 28 1823 Agricultural Labourer Beedon, Leicestershire HICKINBOTTOM, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1825 Sheepy, Leicestershire HICKINBOTTOM, Thomas W Son M 2 1849 Warton, Warwickshire HICKINBOTTOM, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1851 Warton, Warwickshire
JOSEPH's birth (son)
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HICKINBOTTOM Joseph Francis John Atherstone 6d 338
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The only Sarah died in 1860 in Warwickshire.matches the birth of Joseph she could have died in Childbirth.
Civil Registration event: Death Name: HIGGINBOTTOM, Sarah Registration district: Atherstone County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1860 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume no: 6D Page no: 204
If you send for the death cert Joseph Snr or her Father Thomas Poultney could have been the informant.
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15 Dec 2012 11:54 |
This Joseph born 1860/1861
1861 census transcription details for: Polesworth, Polesworth
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 2191 Folio: 85 Page: 24 Reg. District: Atherstone Sub District: 1 Atherstone Parish: Polesworth Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Polesworth, Polesworth County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HICKENBOTTOM, Joseph Head Widower M 38 1823 Agricultural Labourer Breedon on the Hill, Leicestershire HICKENBOTTOM, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Warton, Warwickshire HICKENBOTTOM, Rebekah Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar Warton, Warwickshire HICKENBOTTOM, Sarah Daughter F 3 1858 Warton, Warwickshire >>>HICKENBOTTOM, Joseph Son M 0 (5M) 1861 Warton, Warwickshire
Living with his grandparents(Sarah Hickingbottom nee Pountney parents)
1871 census transcription details for: The Terrace Parsonage House, Polesworth
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3166 Folio: 125 Page: 24 Reg. District: Atherstone Sub District: Atherstone Parish: Polesworth Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: The Terrace Parsonage House, Polesworth County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born POULTNEY, Thomas Head M 67 1804 Leicestershire POULTNEY, Rebbeca Wife F 67 1804 Warwickshire >>>>HICKENBOTTOM, Joseph Grandson M 10 1861 Warwickshire WHYKES, Thomas Servant M 34 1837 Warwickshire
1881
1881 census transcription details for: Stratford St, Yardley (Worcs)
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 3084 Folio: 69 Page: 43 Reg. District: Solihull Sub District: Solihull Parish: Yardley (Worcs) Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Stratford St, Yardley (Worcs) County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MARTIN, George Head Married M 48 1833 Dairyman Stourton, Warwickshire MARTIN, Sarah A Wife Married F 37 1844 Dudley, Worcestershire MARTIN, Eliza Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Allchurch, Warwickshire MARTIN, Sarah J Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Yardley, Worcestershire MARTIN, Alice Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Yardley, Worcestershire MARTIN, George Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Yardley, Worcestershire >>>>HICKENBOTHAM, Joseph F Lodger Single M 20 1861 Police Constable Warton, Worcestershire
Marriage for Joseph(( b 1861)
Civil Registration event: Marriage Print Close Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Joseph Francis Registration district: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1885 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 6D Page no: 155
MarriageFinder: Joseph Francis Hickinbottom married one of the following people:
DOUGHTY, Eliza >>>>>MCDONALD, Mary Anne BOLT, Walter
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1891 census transcription details for: 116, Victoria Road, Aston, Aston Manor
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2434 Folio: 23 Page: 1 Reg. District: Aston Sub District: Aston Manor Parish: Aston Enum. District: 40 Ecclesiastical District: St Peter & St Paul City/Municipal Borough: Address: 116, Victoria Road, Aston, Aston Manor County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born >>HICKINBOTTOM, Joseph Head Married M 30 1861 Police Constable Warton, Warwickshire HICKINBOTTOM, Mary Ann Wife Married F 39 1852 Birmingham, Warwickshire
1901
1901 census transcription details for: 56, Back Tower Road, Aston Manor
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 2885 Folio: 92 Page: 41 Reg. District: Aston Sub District: Aston Manor Parish: Aston Manor Enum. District: 32 Ecclesiastical District: Aston by Birmingham St Peter & St Paul City/Municipal Borough: Address: 56, Back Tower Road, Aston Manor County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born >>HICKINBOTTOM, Joseph Head Married M 41 1860 Police Constable Warton, Warwickshire HICKINBOTTOM, Mary A Wife Married F 45 1856 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Death for Joseph
Civil Registration event: Death Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Joseph F Registration district: Aston County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1904 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 44 Volume no: 6D Page no: 271
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15 Dec 2012 11:20 |
You have the 1861 census for Rebecca Hickingbottom above.
1871
1871 census transcription details for: Monwode Lea Farm, Ansley Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3166 Folio: 59 Page: 3 Reg. District: Atherstone Sub District: Atherstone Parish: Ansley Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Monwode Lea Farm, Ansley County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born CLEMENTS, Thomas Head M 31 1840 Warwickshire CLEMENTS, Elizabeth Wife F 35 1836 Warwickshire CLEMENTS, Sarah E Daughter F 2 1869 Warwickshire >>>HIGINGBOTTOM, Rebecca Servant F 17 1854 Warwickshire ROWLEY, Charles Servant M 25 1846 Warwickshire
On the image it says Warton Warwickshire for her.
Then her death,,,
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Rebecca Registration district: Atherstone County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1873 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 20 Volume no: 6D Page no: 295
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15 Dec 2012 10:59 |
Can't find Mary Ann in 1881.If someone could look on Ancestry for her.
I have looked at 6 marriages but when I looked at the censuses after the marriage there isn't one that matches the birth place of Warton WARWICKSHIRE.
But I have found a death for a Mary Ann Hickinbottom
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: HICKINBOTTOM, Mary Ann Registration district: Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Year of registration: 1883 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death: 32 Volume no: 7B Page no: 143
The age is exactly right for her being born in 1851.
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15 Dec 2012 10:03 |
1871 for Mary Ann,Joseph's daughter..she moved back to Nottingham
1871 census transcription details for: Derby Terrace, Standard Hill & The Castle
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3489 Folio: 62 Page: 42 Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Basford Parish: Standard Hill & the Castle Enum. District: 18 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Derby Terrace, Standard Hill & The Castle County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born SHAW, Thomas Head M 37 1834 Derbyshire SHAW, Augusta Wife F 43 1828 Lincolnshire SHAW, Frank R Son M 11 1860 Nottinghamshire SHAW, Eleanor C A Daughter F 8 1863 Nottinghamshire SHAW, Frederick Son M 7 1864 Nottinghamshire EAST, Louisa Sister-In-Law F 45 1826 Lincolnshire >>>>HICKINGBOTHAM, Mary A Servant F 20 1851 Warwickshire HICKLING, Ann Servant F 15 1856 Leicestershire BARKER, Fanny F Servant F 21 1850 Lincolnshire
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14 Dec 2012 21:35 |
Thanks everyone, some mysteries solved and others to be looked into. :-D
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