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NORRIS, JAMES THOMAS
Rank:Private
Service No:6970
Date of Death:12/08/1918
Age:43
Regiment/Service:East Surrey Regiment
4th Bn. transf. to (279434) Labour Corps
Grave Reference XII. C. 14.
Cemetery BROOKWOOD MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Husband of Alice Norris, of 79, Giffin St., Deptford, London.

Chris :)

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Alice Norris
Year: 1926
County or Borough: Lewisham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Deptford
Street Address: 79 Giffin Street-

Name: Alice Norris
Year: 1930
County or Borough: Lewisham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Deptford
Street Address: 79 Giffin Street

for information ............

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about James Thomas Norris

Name: James Thomas Norris
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Alice Stanton
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Aug 1896
Parish: Camberwell Christ Church
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Jessey Norris
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Stanton
Register Type: Parish Register


Fathers' occupations:- William Jessey Norris, Labourer; Samuel Stanton, Husler (??)

from Public Family tree on ancestry ...................treat with caution, dod not add to your tree unless you can confirm the details.

But it does some ideas for the son James Thomas


There is a photograph of James T with sisters Alice and Rosina


Norris/Gallin Family Tree
Owner: rivergirl104


James Thomas 1901 Norris
Birth 1901 in Greenwich, Kent, , England
Death 1959 in Hertfordshire, England

Parents

James Thomas 1874 Norris 1874 – 1918
Alice Stanton 1877 – 1929

Siblings

Alice Sarah Norris1897 –
Rosina Norris1899 –



Marriage: 1933 - Hertfordshire
Spouse: Ann Fitzgerald



????from another tree, wife possibly Ann Winifred Raikes nee Fitzgerald 1903 – 1948




so according to these trees, Alice Norris nee Stanton did not die until 1929, Deptford, London




sylvia

Sorry, not having much luck with son James Thomas Norris :-(

Maybe the family split up as this looks to be the two girls in 1911?


1911 England Census about Rosina Norris
Name: Rosina Norris
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Scholar
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Nazareth House, Home For The Aged, Industrial School For R C Girls, Isleworth
Registration district: Brentford
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28-37
Piece: 6833
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1911 England Census about Alice Norris
Name: Alice Norris
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Scholar
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Nazareth House, Home For The Aged, Industrial School For R C Girls, Isleworth
Registration district: Brentford
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28-37
Piece: 6833

.........................could very well be, then that mother did die and father couldn't look after the girls on his own????

NOTE:-
Just realised that the girls above are living Reg.Dist. Brentford and the death for mother Alice is also Reg.Dist. Brentford, so it all seems to fit together nicely, so well worth looking into more closely.

1901?
1901 England Census about E Alice Norris
Name: E Alice Norris
[Alice Norris]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Norris
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, London, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: (of James) General Laborer

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 542
Folio: 55
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
James Norris 25 born: Greenwich, London
E Alice Norris 24
Alice L Norris 4 born: Greenwich, London
Rosina D 3/12 born: Greenwich, London

.............if this is the same family, have you tried looking for the other two children in 1911?

EDIT:-

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Alice Sarah Norris
Name: Alice Sarah Norris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1896
Father's Name: James Thomas Norris
Occupation:- Labourer
Mother's Name: Alice Norris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich, East Christ Church
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address:- 63 (looks like) Selcroft Road
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Rosina Norris
Name: Rosina Norris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1899
Father's Name: James Norris
Occupation:- Labourer
Mother's Name: Alice Norris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich, East Christ Church
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address:- 30 Glenthorp Road

for info:-

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Burtenshaw Alice Clara Camberwell 1d 1505
Holloway Arthur Camberwell 1d 1505
xxxx Norris James Thomas Camberwell 1d 1505
xxxx Stanton Alice Camberwell 1d 1505
The district Camberwell spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, London and Surrey
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James Thomas Norris
Name: James Thomas Norris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Apr 1901
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1901
Father's Name: James Thomas Norris
Occupation:- Labourer
Mother's Name: Alice Norris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich, East Christ Church
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address:- 53 Glenthorp Street

FMP version:-
MASER, Annie Wife Married9 years F 38 1873 Caterham Surrey VIEW
MASER, Grace Daughter F 8 1903 School Sidcup Kent VIEW
MASER, Charlie Son M 4 1907 School Bromley Kent VIEW
NORRIS, James Boarder M 26 1885 Charlton VIEW
WILSON, Hilda Nurse Child F 1 (13 MONTHS) 1910 Hanwell VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 2700 Reference: RG14PN2700 RG78PN92 RD28 SD5 ED14 SN278 Registration District: Greenwich Sub District: Greenwich East Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Greenwich Address: 2 Lombard Road County: London

...................He doesn't state that he is married, or single, so I'm wondering if he could actually be widowed?
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Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%)
Norris Alice 24 Brentford 3a 75
The district Brentford is in the county of Middlesex

.........where were the couple living in 1901?

Thank you Andy - I now see why I couldn't find him on FMP - They have him mistranscribed as age 26 - born in 1885 !!! :-( :-S

Dea Xxx

I think this is the family you are looking for

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/24873583/person/1572912061?ssrc=

Thank you for your kind replies Andrew and Dea. Sorry just had an unexpected phone call so now need to go out for about an hour.
Will reply as soon as.
Kind regards Ann.

1911 England Census
about James Norris
Name: James Norris
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Harlton
Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Lombard Rd
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 2700
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Manser 38
Grace Manser 8
Charlie Manser 4
James Norris 36
Hilda Wilson 0




Andy

Could you please post the 1911 census which you have found him on because I can't seem to see it at the moment.

Thanks,

Dea x

Good afternoon all,
Well after years of searching for James Thomas Norris born 1874 from Greenwich Kent in the 1911 census I have finally found him!!!
I found him on Ancestry under birth place " Harlton London " but unfortunately his wife Alice Norris born Stanton 1877 from Deptford and their son James Thomas Norris born 1901 remain aloof!
Any help would be so welcomed.
My thanks for your time in reading my thread,
Kind regards Ann.