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Im sorry i just dont know.THe lady who gave me this information is Rose Bland daughter of Rosina Susie and i think she must have known some if not all of them when she was young.Rose Bland was born in 1931 so i think that some of the children of John must have been in the family home in the 1930s.If this is correct i guess some of them would also have married in Wakefied about this time.Thanks for your help

I couldn't see Rosina in either England or Wales in 1911

You may have to resort to getting her birth cert

You mention other children................do you know if they were older, or younger, than Rosina?

I have looked and looked both in Welsh census and English but cant come up with any family member.Would there be any chance of finding him in the Merchant Navy i think he was on ships with food and sugar cargo.Thanks

I can't see a Rosina with a father named John in the 1911 census. Have you found the family, Lexie?

Hello Reggie I obtained marriage cert for Rosina and address was Wood Yard Cottages.The family remember them living there but nothing else.The family did not know his name untill i got cert but they thought his wife could have been Elizabeth.I cant find any trace of the other children either being born in Wales or Yorkshire

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If you don't know the name of John's wife, I would go down the route of buying Rosina's birth certificate - details shown above - which will show the names of her parents including her mother's maiden name. You can then look for the marriage of John Williams and the mother and that marriage certificate will give John's father's name as well as John's age.

Who was John's wife?

Where did you learn the names of the other children he fathered?

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
Williams Rosina Susie Cardiff 11a 489

How do you know his 1930 address?

Are you assuming the daughter was living at 'home' when she married?

Obvious first step - find out when the daughter was born..............

Please could anyone tell me the best way to approach this.I am looking for information on a John Williams date of birth not known.In 1930 he is living 5 Woodyard cottages Walton Wakefield Yorkshire.He is believed to have come over from Wales with others to open a shaft at Walton Pit.John was not Welsh he is thought to come from either Devon or Cornwall.At some point he is believed to have been in the Merchant Navy.John had several children Ivy Lilly or Lillian Bill Jim or James he also had a daughter a Rosina Susie Williams who married 1930 in Wakefield.Thank you