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Births Sep 1873

Farthing Elizabeth - Mere 5a 215

The Elizabeth Farthing on the 1891 (same family as 1881 above) is a silk winder - doesn't fit the domestic service at 12 story.

Keith - what was Marina's father's name on her marriage certificate?

if William and Fanny are her parents she seems to have been known as Elizabeth in both 1881 and 1891 and living at home in Mere (where she married) not as a servant in 1891

Is this your family in 1881, with Elizabeth aged 7 who you are saying is Marina??
1881 census transcription details for: Orchards Houses, Aberystruth


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5239
Folio: 77
Page: 8
Reg. District: Bedwelty
Sub District: Aberystruth
Parish: Aberystruth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Orchards Houses, Aberystruth
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FARTHING, Wm Head Married M 34 1847 Collier Sills, Wiltshire
FARTHING, Fanny Wife Married F 39 1842 Near, Wiltshire
FARTHING, Hagnes Daughter Single F 15 1866 Working In Factory (Lab) Near, Wiltshire
FARTHING, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar Near, Wiltshire
FARTHING, W J Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Near, Wiltshire
FARTHING, Elizth Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Blaina, Monmouthshire
FARTHING, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Brynmawr, Brecknockshire, Wales
FARTHING, Alice Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar Nantyglo, Monmouthshire
FARTHING, Wm Geo Son Single M 2 1879 Scholar Nantyglo, Monmouthshire
FARTHING, Sarah Elizth Daughter Single F 0 1881 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire

how do you know the story of her domestic service,

Elizabeth's are often known as Lizzie .

I would guess that the name Marina was parent's choice at birth, and then thought to be a bit 'fancy' or Elizabeth was the name of a grandmother perhaps and chosen as her 'workaday' name, hence Marina on all 'official certs' but not on the two census.

Marina Farthing
Birth 28 Mar 1874 in ,Colliers Arms, Blaina , Wales
Death 13 Apr 1946 in 11, Eastway, Sale, Cheshire


According to a tree on Anc, these are her parents

William Farthing
1846 –
Fanny Herridge
1847 –

married in WILTSHIRE
Name: FARTHING, Marina
Registration district: Mere
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 453
Name: HUTCHINGS, William John
Registration district: Mere
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 453

So who are her parents on her birth cert ?

Civil Registration event: Birth


Name: FARTHING, Marina
Registration district: Bedwellty
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1874
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 85

Is there a question in there somewhere?

My G Mother named on birth cert as Marina Farthing born 28th March 1874 in Bedwelty, Aberystruth, County of Monmouth, went into domestic service in abt 1886 as a kitchen maid in a large house already having 16 indoor servants. She was hired by the housekeeper with the approval of the cook and was told that Marina was not a servants name and she could choose either Lizzie or Maggie and she chose Lizzie. How long she was there is not known.

Next time she appears is when she was married to my G Father, William John Hutchings at Mere registry office in 1895 (very pregnant) My father was born in Sept of the same year. In fact he was born in Thames Ditton, Surrey.

It is interesting to note that Marina does not appear in any Census as a Farthing then in 1901 as a Hutchings and ALL family certificates ie childrens births and marriages she appears as Marina.

One further complication is that in 1881 and 1891 census returns Marinas place is taken by an Elizabeth Farthing with the same birth details as Marina. some fiddling? as I have not been able to find a Birth Certificate for Elizabeth with date and place matching.

Good luck ---- Keith :-)