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Nice one Helen.
It means she is not the Alice Jameson in 1911 as posted above.

Here is the full census. This one was MRS Jameson!
Name: Alice Jameson
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Platt Bridge Nr Wigan Hindley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Hindley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Betley St Platt Bridge Nr Wigan
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Wigan
Registration District Number: 458
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 23039
Household Members:
Name Age
George Jameson 27
Alice Jameson 28
Harry Jameson 3
James Jameson 10/12

The 1911 census that you have posted... See original image
Alice Barton is the daughter of James Jameson, John Barton is son in law and Infant James grandson.
However. ALL 3 have been crossed out of the census!?

is anyone else haing trouble with Ancestry?

I have been away from my PC for a little while and when I left had the 1911 image up but now can't get it.

I can't look at the image but I would think they are crossed out because they completed a separate entry which is the one I put up but living at the same address

I found it Ok. You are right, here they are.
Name: Alice Barton
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newcastle Le - Lyne
Civil parish: Ince in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Navigalion Street Platt Bridge
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Wigan
Registration District Number: 458
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 23040
Household Members:
Name Age
John Barton 24
Alice Barton 21
James Barton 4 Moths
View image


Incidentally, Alice Barton signed this even although she was not head of household??

I think this is the death of John Barton

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about John Barton
Name: John Barton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Age at Death: 24 ****
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 137 (click to see others on page

I hope Lee can follow all of this!

I put the death of John on page 1 - from lan-opc which shows the address when he died as 2 Navigation St

I think we may be confusing Lee with the incorrect census info posted (I know I was a bit confused and I'm used to it)

perhaps it would be better to delete the incorrect info

If Lee needs clarification we can set it out and provide the chain of events and family data.
Delete it or simply edit it.
It simply shows that this option was explored and found not to be the correct person.

I would normally agree with that Anne - all data is positive in some way - I was just worried that as Lee is new to the boards that it might confuse

I have had a pm from Lee saying thank you for the help but she/he did not say whether any of the info is correct. We are not even sure that we have the right parents for Robert as they have never been confirmed

Hi Ann,
It was the opening thread, but Lee himself who provided the DOB in Wigan stating that the mother's maiden name was Jameson.

It fitted exactly with the baptism found by yourself.
Parents were Joseph and Alice.
Alice Jameson was married to John Barton. but he died just after the census in 1911.
The death info that you found for John Barton is the same address as the 1911 census.
Therefore, we at least know this particular Alice Barton Ms Jameson was now a widow.

An Alice Barton then married Joseph Corbett.
Subsequent Corbett children have mother's maiden name as Jamieson

Everything looks just about right.... unless there is another Robert Corbett who was born in Wigan on exactly the same day with a mother whose maiden name was ,,,, Jameson ???
They were also all mining families and lived in the same area of Wigan

I agree though, Lee needs to obtain the Corbett/ Barton marriage as confirmation that Alice was a widow with maiden name of Jameson.

Lee these will probably be your Robert's siblings

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Edward Corbett
Name: Edward Corbett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jameson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1922
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 57 (click to see others on page)


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Ceorge Corbett
Name: Ceorge Corbett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jameson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 201 (click to see others on page)

And then the births in Yorkshire just as you said

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Mary Corbett
Name: Mary Corbett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jameson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1927
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1197 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Hilda Corbett
Name: Hilda Corbett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jameson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1930
Registration district: Thorne
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1421 (click to see others on page)

LancashireAnn.
I have just spotted something....
You posted the baptismal details for Robert Corbertt and all looked right.
Wherever you found it, could you look again, please.

Was he a twin???

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Ceorge Corbett
Name: Ceorge Corbett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jameson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 ***
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c ***
Page Number: 201 **

And Robert

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Robert Corbett
Name: Robert Corbett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jameson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 ***
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c ***
Page Number: 201 ***

Something else to consider....
Married in 1915 but no children until 1920?
Joseph Corbett was possibly a serving soldier?
As yet, cannot locate any service records. Those that I have looked at are a mess. More than one Joseph Corbett in any file!!

well spotted Anne

Baptisms: 23 Mar 1920 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire, England
Joseph Corbett - Child of Joseph Corbett & Alice
Born: 11 Jul 1919
Abode: 123 Tram St.
Occupation: Collier
Notes: Private
Baptised by: P. D. Maddock
Register: Baptisms 1911 - 1921, Page 74, Entry 662
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptisms: 17 Oct 1920 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire, England
George Corbett - Child of Joseph Corbett & Alice
Born: 22 Aug 1920
Abode: 123 Tram St.
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: P. D. Maddock
Register: Baptisms 1911 - 1921, Page 82, Entry 730
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptisms: 17 Oct 1920 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire, England
Robert Corbett - Child of Joseph Corbett & Alice
Born: 22 Aug 1920
Abode: 123 Tram St.
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: P. D. Maddock
Register: Baptisms 1911 - 1921, Page 82, Entry 731
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptisms: 31 Dec 1922 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire, England
Edward Corbett - Child of Joseph Corbett & Alice
Born: 3 Apr 1922
Abode: 123 Tram St.
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Thos. Cherrington 68 Sydny[sic] St. P.Bdge.
Register: Baptisms 1921 - 1935, Page 12, Entry 104
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

nice of them to be consistently at the same address!

I found the above on lan-opc.org.uk

but these 2 do not seem to have been baptised in the same place

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Corbett Elizabeth Jameson Wigan 8c 151

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Corbett William Jameson Wigan 8c 160

Thanks Ann
So he was a twin after all!

I think the other two births will be this family as both dates are slightly earlier but still fit with the marriage. One born each year or so, until their move to Yorkshire!

The baptisms would also also suggest that Joseph was not a WW1 soldier.
Just as well because those Corbett Military records are in a mess.

I briefly looked in one single file for a Lancs born Joseph Corbett
Found papers relating to different men enclosed
One English, one Scottish and info on a Polish born one!

His occupation also suggests he was probably not a serving soldier - collier, even though that was apparently not designated a reserved occ until 1916 it was considered of more use to the war effort

did me grandads twin die young i found him got mixed up with dates he was a few months old when died

This is possibly the death

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about George Corbett
Name: George Corbett
[Geroge Corbett]
Birth Date: abt 1920
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 77

A search at:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/incecemetery.php?opt=incecemetery
gets the following plot:
Surname Forename Age Place of Death Date Year Notes Grave Religion
Jameson James 75 yrs Navigation St. 29-Mar 1920 Labourer B 555 C of E
Corbett Joseph 8 mo Tram St. 01-Apr 1920 son of - blank B 555 C of E
Corbett George 2 mo Tram St. 27-Oct 1920 son of Jos. B 555 C of E
Jumpson Mary 74 yrs 220, Warrington Rd. Abram 22-Sep 1928 B 555 C of E
[NB "Date" is date of burial]