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7 Nov 2012 10:39 |
Good Morning
I am seeking information with regards to Elizabeth Anne Parkinson, 1850, Farnworth, Lancashire. She married Peter Brooks in Bolton in 1873 and had the following children, Margaret 1873, James 1874, William 1875, Mary E 1876. I would be interested to know if any of the children married. Thanks
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rootgatherer
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7 Nov 2012 10:46 |
For ref.
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Name: Mary E. Brooks Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Peter Brooks Mother's name: Elizabeth Brooks Gender: Female Where born: Farnworth, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Farnworth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 3 Glynn St Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3812 Folio: 43 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Peter Brooks 32 Elizabeth Brooks 31 James Brooks 7 William Brooks 6 Mary E. Brooks 5 Margaret Brooks 7 months
So did the Margaret born 1873 die?
Have you followed the family in later census to narrow the years for possible marriages?
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7 Nov 2012 10:53 |
Not seeing any of the family on later census at the moment.
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7 Nov 2012 10:54 |
I only have a Margaret 1873 listed
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alviegal
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7 Nov 2012 10:57 |
Children for the couple. From http://www.lan-opc.org.uk
Baptisms: 14 Sep 1873 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England James Brooks - Child of Peter Brooks & Elizabeth Ann Abode: Macdonald St. Occupation: Finisher Baptised by: W. H. Taylor Register: Baptisms 1864 - 1873, Page 295, Entry 2357 Source: LDS Film 1538438
Baptisms: 14 Sep 1873 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England Martha Alice Brooks - Child of Peter Brooks & Elizabeth Ann Abode: Macdonald St. Occupation: Finisher Baptised by: W. H. Taylor Register: Baptisms 1864 - 1873, Page 295, Entry 2358 Source: LDS Film 1538438
Baptisms: 10 Jan 1875 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England William Brooks - Child of Peter Brooks & Elizabeth Ann Born: 4 Dec 1874 Abode: 15 Glyn Street Occupation: Joiner Baptised by: C P Roberts Off. Min. Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1881, Page 50, Entry 395 Source: LDS Film 1538438
Baptisms: 23 Apr 1876 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England Mary Ellen Brooks - Child of Peter Brooks & Elizabeth Ann Born: 9 Mar 1876 Abode: Glynn St. Occupation: Grinder Baptised by: W. H. Taylor Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1881, Page 107, Entry 854 Source: LDS Film 1538438
Baptisms: 24 Mar 1878 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England Eli Brooks - Child of Peter Brooks & Elizabeth Born: 12 Mar 1878 Abode: Glynn St. Occupation: Grinder Baptised by: W. H. Taylor Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1881, Page 187, Entry 1489 Source: LDS Film 1538438
Baptisms: 12 Sep 1880 St Thomas, Dixon Green, Farnworth, Lancashire, England Margaret Brooks - Child of Peter Brooks & Elizabeth Ann Born: 25 Jul 1880 Abode: 3 Glynn St. Occupation: Hair Cutter Baptised by: H. P. Edge Register: Baptisms 1878 - 1887, Page 26, Entry 208 Source: Microfilm of register at Manchester Library
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7 Nov 2012 10:58 |
You ask about marriage rootgatherer in my opening line i wrote "She married Peter Brooks in Bolton in 1873"
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alviegal
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7 Nov 2012 11:03 |
Their marriage.
Marriage: 22 Feb 1873 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England Peter Brooks - 23 Finisher Bachelor of Farnworth Elizabeth Anne Parkinson - 22 Spinster of Farnworth Groom's Father: William Brooks, Finisher Bride's Father: James Parkinson, Spinner Witness: Eli Brooks; Jane Parkinson Married by Banns by: William Henry Taylor Vicar Register: Marriages 1872 - 1878, Page 26, Entry 52 Source: LDS Film 1538441
I think rootgatherer meant potential marriages for the children, Mark. If they are with the family in one census but not in the next, they may have got married in that 10 year period.
That is what you are hoping to find out, isn't it? :-D
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7 Nov 2012 11:12 |
Correct alviegal. That's exactly what I meant! I did see from the opening post that the marriage for the parents had been found.
I don't see a Margaret born 1873 with the couple in 1881. The Margaret with them then is aged only 7 months.
The child Martha Alice died.
Deaths Jun 1874 BROOKS Martha Alice 0 Bolton 8c 204
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7 Nov 2012 11:16 |
A public tree on Ancestry has the family but nothing for them after 1881. It also has a child Margaret b. 1873 and not Martha Alice?
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7 Nov 2012 11:22 |
Just found a death for Eli - 1940
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7 Nov 2012 11:26 |
I wonder if Elizabeth died and Peter re-married? Or did Elizabeth have a sister who also married a Peter Brooks?
1891
Name: Margaret A Brooks Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Peter Brooks Mother's name: Margaret J Brooks Gender: Female Where born: Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Radcliffe Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew Town: Radcliffe County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Radcliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3144 Folio: 167 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Peter Brooks 35 <<< born Bury Margaret J Brooks 35 Mary J Brooks 13 Margaret A Brooks 11 Florence Brooks 9 Jeremiah Parkinson 78 Father-in-law
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No not that family, they are together in 1881
Name: Jeremiah Parkinson Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Father in Law Gender: Male Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Radcliffe County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 55 Spring Lane Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Retired Calico Printer Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Radcliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3871 Folio: 4 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Peter Brooks 25 Margaret Jane Brooks 25 Mary Jane Brooks 3 Margaret Ann Brooks 1 Jeremiah Parkinson 68
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7 Nov 2012 11:26 |
Is this them??
1900 United States Federal Census about Peter Brooks Name: Peter Brooks Age: 51 Birth Date: May 1849 Birthplace: England Home in 1900: Wallington, Bergen, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1882 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Elizabeth A Brooks Marriage Year: 1873 Years married: 27 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Peter Brooks 51 Birthplace: England, occ. folder? Elizabeth A Brooks 50 Birthplace: England emigrated 1883 James Brooks 26 Birthplace: England emigrated 1883 William Brooks 25 Birthplace: England emigrated 1883 Margaret Brooks 19 Birthplace: England emigrated 1883 Thomas Brooks 13 Birthplace: New Jersey Herbert Brooks 10 Birthplace: New Jersey Walter Brooks 7 Birthplace: New Jersey
1910 United States Federal Census about Peter Brooks Name: Peter Brooks Age in 1910: 60 Birth Year: 1850 Birthplace: England Home in 1910: Passaic Ward 2, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1882 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Eliza Brooks Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Peter Brooks 60 employee in a grocery store Eliza Brooks 55 Immigration Year: 1879 b England Herbert Brooks 21 Birthplace: New Jersey Walter Brooks 18 Birthplace: New Jersey Edwin Flanagan 21 Relation to Head of House: Stepson [Step Son] Otis Flanagan 14 Relation to Head of House: Stepdaughter [Step Daughter] [Alis Flanagan] [Otis Elenagen]
Eliza is the mother of 13 children, 8 still living. They have been married for 6 years.
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Mark
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7 Nov 2012 11:29 |
No proof they were out of england and i do no recognise the children's names
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alviegal
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7 Nov 2012 11:32 |
You have James, William and Margaret in the US 1900 census, as well as the parents. You also have 1873 as a year of marriage.
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7 Nov 2012 11:34 |
So Peter remarried to Eliza - as there are step children listed
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rootgatherer
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7 Nov 2012 11:36 |
I think that looks good Alviegal.
Mark, while you have no proof that they were out of England, what proof do you have that they remained in England?
They don't seem to be appearing together as a family in England after the 1881 census.
Perhaps it would help us Mark if you could tell us how you got back to this family please? Are you a descendant of one of the children please?
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7 Nov 2012 11:37 |
If i have the correct death i found Eli in 1940 deceased - please correct me if i am wrong.
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7 Nov 2012 11:40 |
Peter Brooks 1850 through his mother Alice Strickland 1827-1898 who married William Brooks 1818-1867
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alviegal
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7 Nov 2012 12:00 |
This lady is suggested as being margaret.
1920 United States Federal Census about Margaret Hofstra Name: Margaret Hofstra [Margaret Hopster] Age: 40 Birth Year: abt 1880 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Clifton Ward 5, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1882 Relation to Head of House: Wife Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Peter Hofstra Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Peter Hofstra 44 Margaret Hofstra 40 Peter Hofstra 9 Elmer Hofstra 8 Elizabeth Hofstra 6 Henz Hofstra 4
1930 United States Federal Census about Margart Hafrtra Name: Margart Hafrtra [Margart Hofstra] Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1881 Birthplace: England Race: White Home in 1930: Lodi, Bergen, New Jersey View Map Marital Status: Married Immigration Year: 1880 Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: Peter A Hafrtra Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Peter A Hafrtra 54 Margart Hafrtra 49 Peter Hafrtra 19 Elmver Hafrtra 17 Elizabith Hafrtra 15 Herny Hafrtra 13 Anna Hafrtra 9 Margart Hafrtra 4 [4 10/12]
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7 Nov 2012 12:02 |
I think this is the Flanagan children with their parents in 1900. The parents emigrated 1880. I wonder if they were foster children to Peter and Elizabeth rather than Step children?
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Name: Alice Flannigan Age: 4 Birth Date: Aug 1895 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1900: Paterson Ward 2, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Edwin Flannigan Father's Birthplace: England Mother's name: Eliza Flannigan Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Flannigan 47 Eliza Flannigan 47 Lala Flannigan 21 May Flannigan 16 Edwin Flannigan 12 <<<<<<<<< Joseph Flannigan 9 John Flannigan 7 Alice Flannigan 4 <<<<<<<<<< Peter Flannigan 55 (brother of head of household)
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