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20 Nov 2012 18:19 |
Under Stowaways;
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Frank Battersby Name: Frank Battersby Birth Date: abt 1900 Age: 24 Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada Arrival Date: 2 Feb 1924 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Montlaurier Search Ship Database: View the 'Montlaurier' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Steamship Line Official Number: 144022
81 Flood Street address given
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20 Nov 2012 18:16 |
Just for interest;
Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 about Frank Battersby Name: Frank Battersby Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Birth Place: London, England Age: 24 Date of Arrival: 13 Aug 1923 Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Laconia
Went looking for work, NOK is Mrs Battersby, address 81 Flood Street.
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BatMansDaughter
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20 Nov 2012 13:24 |
Think this maybe Frederick Johns 2nd marriage;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) >>>>>>Battersby Frederick Paddington 1a 138 Drew Louisa Paddington 1a 138 >>>>>Hake Kate Paddington 1a 138
She uses Susan also;
1871 England Census about Susan Hake Name: Susan Hake Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Eli Hake Mother's Name: Mary A Hake Gender: Female Where born: Cricket St Thomas, Somerset, England Civil parish: Hawkchurch <<<<< Town: Wylde Court County/Island: Dorset Country: England Registration district: Axminster Sub-registration district: Axminster ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 2032 Folio: 9 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Eli Hake 42 Mary A Hake 36 Samuel Hake 14 Elizabeth Hake 6 Susan Hake 4 Sarah Hake 2
1881 England Census about Susan Hake Name: Susan Hake Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Hawkchurch, Devon, England Civil parish: Chard County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: Fore Street Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Domestic Serv Registration district: Chard Sub-registration district: Chard
Susan disappears after this, but;
1891 England Census about Kate Hake Name: Kate Hake Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Dorset, England Civil parish: St Paul Covent Garden Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Mary le Strand ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 216 Folio: 5 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Charles Mapleson 35 Malina Mapleson 33 Kate Hake 24 Susan Buore 18
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20 Nov 2012 13:04 |
1911 England Census about William Battersby Name: William Battersby Age in 1911: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Stonehouse, Devon, England Civil parish: Lewisham County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 8 Handen Road, Lee S E Marital Status: Married Occupation: POLICE SERGEANT Registration district: Lewisham Registration District Number: 29 Sub-registration district: Lee ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 2744 Household Members: Name Age William Battersby 36 Lottie Battersby 25 Lancelot Battersby 13 <<<<<<<<<<<< Dorethy Battersby 12 Edward Battersby 7 Leonard Battersby 1
1881 England Census about Henry E. Buttersby Name: Henry E. Buttersby Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Buttersby Mother's Name: Caroline Buttersby Gender: Male Where born: Stonehouse, Devon, England Civil parish: East Stonehouse County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: 11 Durnford St Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: East Stonehouse Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2204 Folio: 11 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age George Buttersby 59 Caroline Buttersby 40 John F. Buttersby 18 <<<< Frank Stewarts father on baptism?? Charles O. Buttersby 7 <<< Frank Stewarts father??? Henry E. Buttersby 6 <<<< Full name William Henry Edward Mary E. Buttersby 3 Fanny Leeson 73 Ellen Welaman 72
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20 Nov 2012 12:45 |
Just to add more confusion!!!!
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Dorothy Mariana Battersby Name: Dorothy Mariana Battersby Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Age: 22 Spouse Name: Lancelot Horace Battersby Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 31 Jul 1920 Parish: Walham Green St John Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Father Name: Frederick Battersby >> Police Inspector Spouse Father Name: Edward Battersby >> retired Police Constable Register Type: Parish Register
It's looking likely that your Battersby family were a close knit one. Do I also see that Frank and his brother James marry sisters???
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BatMansDaughter
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20 Nov 2012 12:38 |
In 1891 Fred Battersby is living with his "in laws". He has his sister living with him, and this is her marriage;
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Emily Bertha Battersby Name: Mary Emily Bertha Battersby Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Age: 27 Spouse Name: George Kessack Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Jun 1909 Parish: Chelsea Christ Church Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: George Battersby Spouse Father Name: Andrew Kessack Register Type: Parish Register
Now she marries from 81 FLOOD STREET!!!!
I wonder if Franks was "adopted" from his Uncle Fred????
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20 Nov 2012 12:19 |
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Marie Elizabeth Battersby Name: Marie Elizabeth Battersby Year: 1939 County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea Street Address: 81 Flood Street
Caroline Ryder is also living there
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20 Nov 2012 11:59 |
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Frank Stewart Battersby Name: Frank Stewart Battersby Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Age at enlistment: 19 Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: 1016 Regiment Name: 17th Batt.Middlesex Regiment Number of images: 8
Address is also 81 Flood Street, same as above
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20 Nov 2012 11:58 |
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Frank Stewart Battersby Name: Frank Stewart Battersby Year: 1923 County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea Street Address: 1470 FlOOD STREET
At the same address is ;
Charles Alfred Battersby Marie Elizabeth Battersby James Clarence Battersby
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Thomas and Amy Upson
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Eddie
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20 Nov 2012 10:47 |
can anyone find a mary elizabeth battersby after 1891
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Eddie
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19 Nov 2012 19:38 |
Hi its me again these battersby s are doing my head in John f battersby b1863 devon I can only find a marriage for him to a mary e davis 1880 stoke dameral devon but in the 1901c/1911c it states hes married to either a susan or kate His son archibalds baptism 1896 south kensington states father as john Frederick battersby
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Eddie
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6 Nov 2012 13:54 |
Hi ive looked on the LDS site and charles and john frederick could of had the same parents Surname spellings buttersby battersby could be a typo error
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Eddie
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6 Nov 2012 13:12 |
Thank you one and all for the info regards eddie
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brummiejan
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4 Nov 2012 15:25 |
Might be of interest, don't know:
Births Jun 1901 (>99%) BATTERSBY James Clarence Chelsea 1a 406
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4 Nov 2012 15:23 |
Well spotted MarieCeleste! So - do we think there are 2 Frank Stewart Battersby's or just one? I am starting to wonder if Frank was child to John but given to Charles and Marie as they had lost so many children? Probably fantasising but it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. Jan
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4 Nov 2012 15:17 |
This is the only Battersby I can find registered in Devon.
What about Frederick and John Frederick?
Name: Charles Alfred Battersby Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1871 Registration district: East Stonehouse Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 327 (click to see others on page)
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MarieCeleste
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4 Nov 2012 15:11 |
Following Jan's comment above, Frank Stewart Battersby's service records state he was discharged 1915 for having made a mis-statement about his age.
Address was 81 Flood Street, Chelsea.
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4 Nov 2012 14:58 |
Another query! Can anybody see a birth record for any other Frank Stewart Battersby because I can't. So where is the 1896 registration? I am starting to cook up a story of wife-swapping and/or bigamy in my head, somebody stop me!!
ADDED Actually, I suspect Frank was born 1900 and fabricated his birth year to join up!
Jan
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4 Nov 2012 14:51 |
All the baptisms, except Frank and James, are covered on the 1911 that brummiejan has posted above. Living with parents Frederick and Kate.
Archibald Howard Ida May Marie Florence Louise Dorothy Malvina Alexander Henry
Frederick Battersby married Kate Hake 18 94 Paddington
On the 1871 census, Kate is called Susan.
Frederick and Kate claim (on the 1911 census) to have been married and having had 7 children, all of whom are strill alive.
Looks like Frederick Battersby was married to a Mary Davies before he married Kate.
1891 census Civil parish: Stoke Damerel Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Devonport
Philip H Davis - head 54 Fred H H Davis - son 16 Beatrice M C Davis - dau. 12 Mary A E Battersby - dau. 28 Martha A H Pope - dau. 26 James H H Pope - g.son 4 Frederick J W Battersby - s in law - Stonehouse 29 Emily May B Battersby - s in law's sister - Stonehouse 13
Sorry brummiejan, I see you've already posted this.
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4 Nov 2012 14:45 |
I am chasing my tail, but I wondered if this is the marriage of Charles and Marie from the 1911 census above. This woman has the same name as the one possibly marrying John Frederick in 1880 (yes, I know her name should be Battersby if the same person!). Charles' middle name is def. Alfred (on 1896 Frank's military record).
Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%) Battersby Charles Alfred St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953 Bridgeman Frederick St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953 Davis Mary Elizabeth St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953 Moore Emily St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953
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