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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 13:54

well some were hartlepool bt then my gran whos mum winspear was edingburgh lol i go un tick im kinda new here to site using tools that is

jennifer you can look my tree if it helps


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 13:56

Marriages Dec 1876
CLARK Sarah Ann Hartlepool 10a 167 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Foster John Hartlepool 10a 167
Routledge Ann Hartlepool 10a 167
WINSPEAR John Hartlepool 10a 167 <<<<<<<<<<<<<


Births Dec 1877 Winspear Robert Hartlepool 10a 140

Births Dec 1878 WINSPEAR John George Hartlepool 10a 150

Births Mar 1881 WINSPEAR Mary Hartlepool 10a 157

Births Sep 1883 WINSPEAR William Hartlepool 10a 139

Births Jun 1886 Winspear Sarah Hartlepool 10a 145

Births Sep 1888 WINSPEAR Frederick Hartlepool 10a 123

Births Sep 1895 Winspear Alice Hartlepool 10a 158


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 13:58

No, I don't need to look at your tree Jennifer. Now I know that Sarah and Robert came north of the border I know that we are looking at the correct family - just didn't want to lead you along the wrong branch road!

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:00

wow thanks your amazing can i ask do u know how to trace releatives that maybe emigrated to aussie

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:09

Name: John Winspear
Birth Date: abt 1848
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 135

Name: Sarah A Winspear
Birth Date: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1924
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 274

Name: Frederick Winspear
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: West Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 979


Struggling to find deaths for any of the others in that area.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:16

that is interseting my mum was born in west hartlepool in 1943


to sarah marion hoggan nee winspear must have know bro frederick was there


jennifer

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:22

thanks u have helped you dont know what sarah winspears un married name was the one born 1854 and where she born as i havent got her maiden name she be my great great gran


thanks for your help

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:30

Frederick, who died in 1946 was the uncle of Sarah Marion Hoggan i.e the brother of her mother Sarah Hoggan nee Winspear..

Maybe for William Winspear?? Not too sure as his occupation is given as a labourer and yours was a Railway Clerk in 1901?

Name: William Winspear
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Date of Arrival: 3 Jul 1908
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Britain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4759

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:36

Here's a William coming back from Canada.

Name: William Winspear, occ Farmer
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 37
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 17 Jan 1921
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Pretorian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Pretorian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 113969

Address he's going to is Beach View, Thorpe Street, Hartlepool.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:38

yes fredderick was looking at it my grans uncle im not sure what william did


some one told me ages ago some one from family moved to canada


jennifer


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:41

Name: William Winspear , occ. Farmer
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 48
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 10 May 1932
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
[Glasgow]
[Belfast]
Ship Name: Laurentic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 149642


Address he's going to 15 Mulgrave Raod, West Hartlepool. (Note: same Road as given in Frederick's probate gave)

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:46

yep right family some one contact me 2 yr ago told me some one went canada they related live there now


jennifer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:52

Birth year a couple of years out but this man is single and a farmer............

1916

Name: William Winspear
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 30
Est. Birth Year: 1886
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1908
Home in 1916: 08, Battle River, Alberta
Address: 38, 5, W4, Hillcrest
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Self
Sub District Desc.: Township 38, ranges 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, W. 4. M.
Household Members: Name Age
William Winspear 30

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:52

so two william came back or two different ones as two diff dates and ships ?

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 24 Oct 2012 14:58

Very good author (at least I like her books) named Winifred Winspear-any relation ? :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:02

A tree on Ancestry has this for John Winspear b. 1846

Parents
John Winspear 1816 – 1874
Mary Robinson 1823 – 1864

Spouse & Children
Sarah Ann Clark 1853 – 1924

John George Winspear 1878 –
Robert Winspear 1878 –
Mary Winspear 1881 –
William Winspear 1884 –
Sarah Winspear 1887 –
Frederick Winspear 1889 –
Alice Winsper 1896 –


Parents for Sarah Ann Clark given as
Robert Clark 1822 –
Sarah Knox 1827 –



Not very helpful as there are no sources other than census records given for the information...but then again the tree has over 8,000 names on it so maybe just a name collector rather than family historian!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:04

I think it it the same William coming home more than once to visit relatives Jennifer.


Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:05

dont know if relation to the book think mary winspear married a robert wardle and move to canada in 1911


thanks for your help

jennifer

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:07

root gatherer mary winspear i beleive married a robert wardle

emigrated to canada in 1911 there grandaughter contacted me a few yrs back

her gran is my great grans sister


jennifer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:41

1871

Name: John Winspear
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Hartlepool
Town: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 186
Piece: 4915
Folio: 92
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Henderson 36
John Winspear 23 Ship's Carpenter

1861

Name: John Winspear
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Winspear
Mother's name: Mary Winspear
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 19e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 3701
Folio: 100
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspear 45 Shipbuilder Employing (looks like) 40 men & 12 boys
Mary Winspear 38 b.Sutton Hall, Yorkshire, England
Marmaduke R Winspear 17 Ship's Carpenter
John Winspear 14 scholar
Wallace Winspear 6
Race M Winspear 9 Months
Elizabeth Hunter 18 Servant
Elizabeth Shuaton 15 Servant

John (senior) born Whitby, Yorkshire

1851

Name: John Winspear
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Winspear
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 253
Piece: 2384
Folio: 288
Page Number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspear 32 Shipwright employing 20 men
Mary Winspear 27
Marmaduke Winspear 5
John Winspear 3
Ellen Winspear 5 Mo
Jane Winspear 56 Visitor, Shipwright's wife.

1871

Name: John Winspere
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 4917
Folio: 80
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspere 56
Wallace Winspere 15
Race M Wenspean 10
John Brunton 41
Alice Ray 23
Alice Ray 1

1871

Name: John Winspere
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 4917
Folio: 80
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspere 56 Married (shipbuilder crossed out & Shipwright entered)
Wallace Winspere 15
Race M Wenspean 10
John Brunton 41 Lodger, Shipwright's clerk)
Alice Ray 23 Servant
Alice Ray 1 Boarder