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OneFootInTheGrave
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19 Oct 2012 03:46 |
Hello MarieCeleste,
The Robert Wotherspoon that you detail from the 1911 Census of Canada does not appear to be the one I am looking for. However he may be related to one of the other Wotherspoon's in my tree so I will save that information and research further into it once I have dealt with Robert D Wotherspoon.
Many Thanks,
James
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alviegal
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18 Oct 2012 21:35 |
The Robert from above, parents James and Margaret.
1930 United States Federal Census about Robert Wotherspoon Name: Robert Wotherspoon Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Scotland Race: White Home in 1930: Ocala, Marion, Florida View Map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Wotherspoon Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Wotherspoon 70 Margaret Wotherspoon 54 Birthplace: Scotland James Wotherspoon 15 b Canada
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alviegal
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18 Oct 2012 21:33 |
What do you know for definite about your ancestor? Is it his parents, place of birth, who he married? There are a few Roberts born around that time.
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18 Oct 2012 21:21 |
1861 census transcription details for: Front Row, Kilbirnie Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 596 Folio: 0 Page: 5 Reg. District: The Whole Parish of Kilbirnie Sub District: Parish: Kilbirnie Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Front Row, Kilbirnie County: Ayrshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WETHERSPOON, James Head Married M 51 1810 Overseer Of Blacksmith I Works Glasgow, Lanarkshire WETHERSPOON, Margaret Wife Married F 41 1820 Glasgow, Lanarkshire WETHERSPOON, John Son Unmarried M 22 1839 Engine Fitter New Monkland, Lanarkshire WETHERSPOON, William W Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Blacksmith (Journeyman) New Monkland, Lanarkshire WETHERSPOON, Isabella Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Dress Maker New Monkland, Lanarkshire WETHERSPOON, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Blacksmith (Apprentice) New Monkland, Lanarkshire WETHERSPOON, Margt Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar Kilbirnie, Ayrshire WETHERSPOON, Christina Daughter F 3 1858 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire WETHERSPOON, Robert D Son M 1 1860 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire WETHERSPOON, Janet Spittal Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846 New Monkland, Lanarkshire
This one was born in Ayrshire which is nowhere near Lanarkshire.
This one died in Florida.
parents: James Wotherspoon,? Margret Waddel name: Robert D. Wotherspoon death date: 07 Aug 1934 death place: Ocala, Marion, Florida gender: Male race (original): white race (expanded): White birth date: 23 Apr 1859 birthplace: Ayrshire, Scotland marital status: Married father's name: James Wotherspoon father's birthplace: Scotland mother's name: Margret Waddel mother's birthplace: Scotland occupation: Engineer cemetery: Woodlawn burial date: 09 Aug 1934
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MarieCeleste
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18 Oct 2012 20:30 |
Is this him?
1911 Census of Canada
Name: Robert Wotherspoon Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 52 Birth Date: Nov 1858 Birthplace: Scotland Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Wotherspoon Immigration Year: 1911 Tribal: Scotch (Scotish) Province: Nova Scotia District: Colchester District Number: 41 Sub-District Number: 4 Place of Habitation: Lower Truro Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age Robert Wotherspoon 52 - Farmer Margaret Wotherspoon 35, b Scotland John Wotherspoon 17 b USA Margaret Wotherspoon 14 b USA Agnes Wotherspoon 14 b England Robert Wotherspoon 2 b England Alexander Wotherspoon 3/12 - 8 months, b England William Cross 34
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OneFootInTheGrave
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18 Oct 2012 16:58 |
Thanks Gins,
Going off to have a bite to eat, will have a look at those shortly.
Regards,
James
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OneFootInTheGrave
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18 Oct 2012 16:53 |
Hi Reggie,
Yes, they are very unreliable, as to Scotlands People I have already overspent on that this month but will get more credits later this month.
Regards,
James
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OneFootInTheGrave
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18 Oct 2012 16:46 |
Hi Maddie,
These Ancestry and Pedigree Files are so conflicting and confusing, one person says one thing and another says something else.
I am fairly new at this and I made the mistake of using one of them, entered about 30 people on my tree only to find out the information was wrong so had to remove them all.
If I cannot find definitive answers myself I prefer to rely on the very helpful people on here who go out of their way to help us amateurs.
Regards,
James
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2012 16:26 |
Scotlands people is where you should be searching for info regarding marriages
The info on the LDS site is almost always unreliable, to say the least, unless extracted from parish registers
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18 Oct 2012 16:25 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1312188
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1311416
For info
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OneFootInTheGrave
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18 Oct 2012 16:24 |
Hello KathleenBell,
That appears to be the one, if my memory serves me correctly it was from census details that I originally got my information, now I have to find out details about his first and second marriages and if there were any children from them.
Regards,
James
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Maddie
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18 Oct 2012 16:21 |
trees on ancestry have the Ayshire born Roberts parents as in the census posted above, however another tree has the Lanarkshire born Robert with parents Robert Wotherspoon and Magdalene Thomson and married to Jessie Hosie in 1888 Denniststoun, Glasgow, Scotland. Not very helpful sorry
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18 Oct 2012 16:10 |
Is this the family in the 1871 census:-
1871 census transcription details for: Front Square, Kilbirnie
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 596 Folio: 4 Page: 2 Reg. District: The Whole Parish of Kilbirnie Sub District: Parish: Kilbirnie Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Front Square, Kilbirnie County: Ayrshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WOTHERSPOON, James Head Married M 61 1810 Foreman Blacksmith Glasgow, Lanarkshire WOTHERSPOON, Margaret Wife Married F 51 1820 New Monkland, Lanarkshire WOTHERSPOON, William Son Unmarried M 31 1840 Blacksmith New Monkland, Lanarkshire WOTHERSPOON, Christina Daughter Unmarried F 13 1858 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire WOTHERSPOON, Robert D Son M 11 1860 Scholar Kilbirnie, Ayrshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< STEWART, William Boarder Married M 45 1826 Minister & Metod Presbyterian Church Edinburgh, Midlothian
Sorry - I don't have access to Scottish BMD's.
Kath. x
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18 Oct 2012 16:03 |
Don't ask me where I got this from as I have looked at so many Wotherspoon's I am losing track of them :-(
Anyway, I have in my tree a Robert D Wotherspoon born in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, abt 1859 to a James Wotherspoon born abt1809 and a Margaret Waddell born abt 1818, however I cannot prove that to be the case and what little information I have found is mainly in Pedigree Resource Files and I find information from these to be very confusing and often not reliable.
These also intimate that he was married twice, once to an Agnes ??? possibly in Nova Scotia but I have been unable to trace her surname, he then married a Margaret Millar or Anderson on 10 February 1905 in Glasgow.
Can anyone stop me tearing my hair out over this one.
Thanks
James
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