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Hi Gins,
I will thank you.
Cheryl.

Hi Cheryl

Please come back when have more info from Scotlands People and we can help you with the Irish history

Fingers crossed for you

Hi Gins & Chris,
I will have to get my daughter to come and help me with Scotlands people as She is better on the computer than I am.
You both have been wonderful,Thank you so much.
Cheryl.

(lol, that was tidying, and tea maker, will clean next!)

So their last child William born about 1916?...(yes, need Scotlands People).

Chris :)

Hi Cheryl

If you can afford it, I'd buy the marriage certificate for John Lamont as it will give you his dob etc and then we can search the Irish records for his birth You can also view the Scotish 1911 census on the same site

I dont use Scotlands People but I think the credits are quite cheap and you can view the certificate online and print off

This is the info you can expect to find on a Scotish marriage certificate


Registers of Marriages Date Range
Bridegroom: name & marital status 1855 to date
Bridegroom: age 1855 - 1971
Bridegroom: date & place of birth 1855, then 1972 to date
Bridegroom: rank, profession or occupation 1855 to date
Bridegroom: residence 1855 to date
Bride: name & marital status 1855 to date
Bride: age 1855 - 1971
Bride: date & place of birth 1855 only, then 1972 to date
Bride: rank, profession or occupation 1855 to date
Bride: residence 1855 to date
Couple: date & place of marriage 1855 to date
Couple: if irregular marriage, date of conviction etc. 1855 - 1965
Couple: relationship, if related to each other 1855 - 1860
Parents of couple: name including maiden surnames of mothers 1855 to date
Parents of couple: rank, profession or occupation 1855 to date
Parents of couple: alive or deceased? 1855 to date
Children of couple by each former marriage 1855 only
Witnesses: signatures 1855 to date
Witnesses: addresses 1922 to date
Marriage celebrant: signature 1855 to date
Registrar: date & place of registration, signature 1855 to date
Form of Marriage e.g. Established Church of Scotland, Free Kirk, Licence (type) etc 1855 to date

Hi Gins & Chris
yes the tree you have is mine I am Cheryl nee Girdham but I can not find where or when my great grand father John Lamont who is married to Elizabeth McGuire died.
No one spoke of him so I have no idea about him.
Thank you Gin for helping me sort Olga (olly) & Ella out I was not sure about them.

Yes Chris I have that document about the ship they came over on and the Margaret that they mention is my grandmother and she came with her mother and two brothers but no father.
So he is a mystery, never mind one day he will emerge LOL.
Thanks guys for all your help and time.
I'll just write up all the Armstrongs they'll keep me going for awhile.
Thanks.
Cheryl.

Youre cleaning up BEFORE the workmen come, you numpty Chris ;-)


Cheryl, I dont think that Ella is your family. Heres a tree

Ella Lilian Armstrong
Stanley Family Tree
Birth: 28 June 1905 (28 Jun 1905)
Marriage: 1920 - Coolah, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 10 Nov 1998 - Berkeley Vale, New South Wales, Australia
Parents: Henry Armstrong, Louisa Oliver
Spouse: Ernest J Cornish

So I think we can stop chasing her!



And I have a hunch that 'Olly' is this woman

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Olga E Armstrong
Spouse Name: Alan C Robb
Marriage Date: 1924
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1924
Registration number: 9420

(mornin' Gins, got a workman coming here shortly so just getting tidied up, lol)

Will look in later, looks good what you have there...

Chris :)

Mornin......


Cheryl, this is from a tree at Ancestry


John Lamont
Girdham Family Tree
Birth: 1884 - Ireland
Marriage: 1.10.1909 (1 Oct 1909) - Greenock, Scotland
Parents: John aka William Lamont, Agnes Bridget Cathcart.
Spouse: Elizabeth McGuire

Brother William Dowdell Cathcart Lamont


Chris posted a link to Scotlands People where you can buy creidts and get the BMD certs online

There are 4 matches on Scotlands People for a 1909 marriage but you have buy credits to view the certificate


1901 Scotland Census
Name: John Lamont
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Agnes Lamont
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 564/2
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil parish: Greenock West
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 6 Laird St
Occupation: Gaswork Labourer
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1901_196
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Lamont 38 <<Ire
John Lamont 12 <<Ire
William Lamont 6 <<Scot

Name: Elizabeth Lamont
Death Date: 1931
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John
Mother's name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1931
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration number: 5440

Is her arrival 1920 on 'Themistocles' NSW?..., if so, outgoing she has 3 children, Margt. 8, John 7, William 4.

Chris :)

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx

(looks like above link, but credits needed)

Hi Gins & Chris,
I was wondering if you wouldn't mind looking for a death for me now I have absolutely no Idea Where my great grand father died his name is John Lamont born about 1885-88 I think Ireland and came to Greenock Scotland as a boy.
He married Elizabeth McGuire born abt 1885 in Greenock,Scotland she had a sister Anne.
I have Elizabeths death certificate she died 12 June 1931 NSW Australia.
I Just need to find where her husband death, but with the name John Lamont its so hard as there are thousands.
He didn't come to Australia with Elizabeth she came out here in 1920.
I don't want to push my luck with both of you, but I thought with all family you found on the Armstrongs that you are both great detectives lol.
So I hope you can help with this one to.
Thank you.
Cheryl.

HI Gins & Chris,
I came on this morning just to copy out some more of what you both have put on here and got a great laugh and surprise to find more and yes Gins you do know as much as I do about this family lol.
You two are wonderful.
I am trying really hard to sort it all out I went into BDM NSW and was looking for Olly E.Armstrong & Ella L. Armstrong I'm not sure if they are part of the family although their parents are Henry & Louisa,but I just can not find any thing about them marriages or deaths.
Have also tried the Ryerson Index too.
Well once again Thanks heaps.
Cheryl.

OK, thanks Chris :-)

I think me and you know as much about this family as Cheryl!!

:-D

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

(from above, saw the below Death)

ARMSTRONG Frederick John Death notice 26DEC1973 Death 62 late of Lidcombe Sydney Morning Herald 28DEC1973

Chris :)

NSW Birth
20141/1911 ARMSTRONG FREDERICK J FREDERICK J ELSIE PETERSHAM

(don't think they cover 60's yet Gins, sorry!)

Chris :)

Nice one Chris :-)

Is there anything for the death of Beryl M Roser, sometime in the 60s according to a tree?

Funeral Notice for Elsie Easter, 1934, mentions Mr/Mrs W.J. Roser, Mr/ Mrs. F.J. Armstrong Jun., Victor, Mary, Dorothy and Reggie...

Chris :)

A child for Frederick J and Elsie


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Beryl M Armstrong
Birth Date: 1910
Father's Name: Frederick J Armstrong
Mother's name: Elsie E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Place: Petersham, New South Wales
Registration number: 7575

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Beryl M M Armstrong
Spouse Name: William J M Roser
Marriage Date: 1929
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Ashfield, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1929
Registration number: 11046

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: William J M Roser
Birth Date: 1907
Father's Name: Hugh K Roser
Mother's name: Laura
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Place: Balmain South, New South Wales
Registration number: 21629



And Elsie' details. I checked the details from her birth certificate as someone has her in their tree at Ancestry


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Elsie Thompson
Birth Date: 1889
Father's Name: Thomas Thompson <<Coach driver
Mother's name: Mary McCrink
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Moruya, New South Wales
Registration number: 20183

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Elsie E Armstrong
Death Date: 1934
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Thomas D
Mother's name: Mary A
Registration Year: 1934
Registration Place: Newtown, New South Wales
Registration number: 9573


Elsie' parents marriage

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Thomas Thompson
Spouse Name: Mary Mccrink
Marriage Date: 1888
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Moruya, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1888
Registration number: 4822


Cheryl, have a look back on this page as I have added a child for Mrytle and Joseph Parker

Hi Gins & Chris,
Yes Gins I think he might be too,and I will check the newspapers Chris.
Thank you both heaps.
Cheryl.

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Collings Caroline Ellen Bromley 2a 409

(just adding above as possible?, not seeing Aus. Birth)

Chris :)