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Thank you Sylvia and Chris you have been a big help

No Sylvia the friend didnt know about Blanche till I told her today
Her grandmother Doris and her own mother had a falling out so my friend never knew her grandmother
Goodnight Sylvia and thanks

Hi

Did your friend realise that Doris was born an Apthorp???


Births Jun 1904 (>99%)

APTHORP Doris W. Ham 4a 14




she might want to get this birth certificate





sylvia

Hi Sylvia
I gave my friend all the information and she is delighted. She didnt know about her grandmother being an Apthorp because as I said she didnt know her
so its all very exciting

Ernest Robert J Burke married June qt 1900 W.Ham to Blanche Louisa Foster
So need to find her on earlier census if you care to look


Thanks once again

Hi


This looks like her in 1891, with grandparents

1891 Census

Name: Blanche Foster
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston

Thomas Foster 59 b.ca 1832, London, Brick Manufacturer
Jane Foster 53 b.ca 1838, Portsmouth
Arthur Foster 23 b.ca 1868, Portsmouth, Son, Engine Fitter
Albert P Foster 21 b.ca 1870, Portsmouth, Son, Plumber
Augustus E Foster 17 b.ca 1874, Portsmouth, Son, Gas Fitter Apprentice
Blanche Foster 9
Augustus A Foster 4 b.ca 1887, Grandson

Address:- Ebenezer House, Tipnor Lane




England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Blanche Louisa Foster

Name: Blanche Louisa Foster
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1882
Registration district: Portsea Island
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 552





sylvia

The Foster family in 1881


1881 Census

Name: Thomas Foster
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Foster
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Robin Hood 361 Comml Road
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Licensed Victualler And Brickmaker

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston

Thomas Foster 49
Jane Foster 42
Thomas Foster 24
Louisa Foster 19
Blanche Foster 17
Arthur Foster 13
Percy Foster 11
Gustavus Foster 7
Louisa Sharp 4



Two daughters on there old enough to be the mother of Blanche Louisa


I tried to find a baptism, couldn't



Have to go out now





sylvia

Thank you Sylvia very helpful

Quinsgran


I think your friend should buy the birth certificate ..........


I can't find any more information.

Augustus A Foster on the 1891 Census is Augustus Albert Foster

He is living with his grandfather in 1901 as Albert Foster


I suspect that he might be Blanche's brother.


I also suspect that both Blanche and Augustus are illegitimate children of one of the older girls.


Blanche's marriage certificate(s) may give the name of a father .................... but who knows if that is true.



I suggest that she buys one or both of the marriage certificates, and also buys the birth certificate. She will get at the truth then.




sylvia

According to a tree on ancestry, Blanche Foster married George Kidd .........


1884 13 Apr
Age: 20
Marriage to George Kidd
St Matthew, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England

Cert. signed by Thomas Kidd (shoemaker) and Thomas Foster. Witnesses:Charles Lang and Louisa



If true, that would rule her out as the mother of young Augustus, who was born ca 1887




sylvia

Thank you Sylvia I agree she should buy more certs to confirm
Up to her now. I will let you know if she does

Did you find a Blanche Kidd on the census. I know some people add trees that are not always proved correct. Someone did the same for my family but I had the certs to prove they were wrong

Thanks for all your help

Forgot to mention I found an article about Thomas Foster of Robin Hood Landport
in the online paper. He was bankrupt

Hi

yes I did .............. just didn't post it!!

I thought that tree was likely to be pretty accurate, as they quoted what was written on the certificate.



1891 Census

Name: Blanche Kidd
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Kidd
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston

George Kidd 27 Hairdresser
Blanche Kidd 27
Blanche M Kidd 5
George A Kidd 4
Gertrude F Kidd 2
Archibald P Kidd 5/12

Address:- 207 Kingston Road


1901 Census

Name: Blanche Kidd
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Kidd
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Chichester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Registration district: Chichester
Sub-registration district: Chichester

George Kidd 37 Inn Keeper
Blanche Kidd 37
Blanche Mabel Kidd 15
George Albert Kidd 14
Gurtrude Florence Kidd 12
Archibald Percival Kidd 10
Rose Alice Kidd 7
Richard Aylward 36 Boarder
Frances Aylward 10

Address:- 119 The Hornet


1911 Census

Name: Blanche Kidd
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Havant
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Leigh Terrace, Eastern Road, Havant, Hants
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 26
Estimated Marriage Year: 1885
Registration district: Havant
Registration District Number: 89
Sub-registration district: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 5473

George Kidd 47 b.ca 1864, PortseaBarber
Blanche Kidd 47
George Albert Kidd 25 Gardener, Domestic


5 children born, 5 living






so I wonder where Thomas Foster ended up??

Thanks Sylvia
Did the marriage cert give the occupation of Thomas Foster who is a brick maker manufacturer and also ran Robin Hood Tavern

I haven't seen the certificate ...... another tree has also posted all the details from the certificate, with a ?? after Thomas Foster's name

This is what that poster says ....................


Marriage to Blanche Foster
St Matthew, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
page 192 no 383 Apr 13 1884 George KIDD full age bachelor Tobacconist 49 High St Gosport & Blanche FOSTER full age spinster 49 High St Gosport after banns both signed fathers Thomas KIDD Shoemaker & Thomas FOSTER ? in the presence of Charles LANG & Louisa






sylvia