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17 Jul 2016 07:57 |
I think we have cleared Edith Mabel's life and family...trying to find Eva Bevan in 1911 and then after 1926 when she inherited Charles' estate. She literally appears to disappear. Believe her birth was in July 1880. The date in the school record is wrong..the free nd reg and baptism are correct.
Jude
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17 Jul 2016 07:47 |
Lost track of what info you have or still need
Marriages Jun 1947
Jenkins Vera R Taylor Preston 10f 750 Taylor John Jenkins Preston 10f 750
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Vera Rose Taylor
Birth Date:18 Jul 1912
Date of Registration: Jul 2001
Age at Death: 89
Registration district:Preston and South Ribble
Inferred County:Lancashire
Register Number:A49C
District and Subdistrict:5881A
Entry Number:56
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17 Jul 2016 07:38 |
1939 Register
Jenkins Household (3 People) 4 Albyn Bank Street , Preston C.B., Lancashire, England
Vera Jenkins 18 Jul 1912 Female Surgical Dressings Single 270 2 Mabel Jenkins 03 Nov 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 270 1 Joyce Tabbenor (Wright,Jenkins) 13 Apr 1920 Female Surgical Dressings Single 270 3
Births Sep 1912
Jenkins Vera R Mathias Bury 8c 1062
Births Jun 1920
Jenkins Joyce Mathias Todmorden 9a 406
Marriages Mar 1940
Jenkins Joyce Wright Preston 8e 1385 Wright Leslie Jenkins Preston 8e 1385
Marriages Jun 1949
Jenkins Joyce Tabbenor Preston 10f 674 Tabbenor Russell R Wright Preston 10f 674 Tabbenor Russell R Jenkins Preston 10f 674 Wright Joyce Tabbenor Preston 10f 674
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Jul 2016 07:22 |
(yes, looked back and saw Eva Deborah Bevan, from me!, couldn't make out why, lol, Ada Deborah was her sister, her Brother Eli O Marriage image, same page as Eva, with Ada D, as Witness!)
(Anyway, had to get a clear head of it, lol. Just wondered who 'Gillian' was following)
Chris :)
(below probably her)
Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Bevan Eva C 48 Pontypridd 11a 674
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17 Jul 2016 07:09 |
No we ruled out Eva Clorinda....she married a Mr Bevan in 1904. "My" Eva was a spinster in 1926 (according to the will drawn up I n 1922)
Jude
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17 Jul 2016 06:24 |
(haven't checked back, but that GR Member Gillian, who has 1880, Glyn Newchurch Eva, is that the Eva C 1879, who Married 1904, wasn't sure if you had made 'contact'?)
(her Baptism 1879 as Eva Chlorinda (Alfred James & Merab, he the Woodcutter!. Itton)
Chris :)
(probably raking over an old coal, lol)
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16 Jul 2016 20:05 |
I think we might...and it might not be released.....
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16 Jul 2016 18:00 |
This Eva's driving me potty. Hoping we don't have to wait until 1921 census comes out!
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Jul 2016 16:07 |
(right, that 'sorts' her then, lol)
Chris :)
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16 Jul 2016 10:43 |
I think the Eva Bevan that married Wilfred Robert Rogers was also born in Bedwelty but mmn is Parsons (not Young)
And she was the one born in 1915, so not "my" Eva.
Jude
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16 Jul 2016 05:28 |
(just to add Robert for that, not the WR who died 1963, Ronnie, for him!)
Chris :)
Bath Marriage indexes for the years 1938
BEVAN Eva ROGERS Wilfred Robert Bath Register Office Bath RO1/95/047
(possible 2 births following also, on Index)
http://www.bathbmd.org.uk/index.php
(noticed below, next year, if relating)
Bath Marriage indexes for the years: 1939
BEVAN Maud Elizabeth Rose FOX Arthur William Bath Register Office Bath RO1/97/007
edits
(Maud Birth, 1918 Bedwellty. Possible Parents below)
Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- Bevan William Young Pontypool 11a 318 YOUNG Emma Bevan Pontypool 11a 318
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15 Jul 2016 15:40 |
Oh that's new! In 1911 she was at number 50 and my grandparents were at number 54.
Jude
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15 Jul 2016 14:03 |
Oh- so you did! I spent the morning going through it yesterday as well- but that was yesterday :)
I did see that Maria was at 48 Constance Street in 1914- listed in the Newport Street Directory:
48 Constance Street, Llewellyn, Mrs Matia
http://www.newportpast.com/records/index.php
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15 Jul 2016 13:29 |
We sort of did that on page 8 Austin! :-)
After this thread was posted the other day
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1351388
Patricia, kindly went to Taunton to follow up her query on an address in Bridgwater and, whilst there, even more kindly, had a look for Charles and Eva.
This was her finding:
From autumn 1922 up until spring 1926 living at that address was John and Mary Randell, also a Thomas Squires. From Spring 1926 there were no records for no 45.
So Maria died on 09 May 1922, and Charles is on the ER at 36 Constance Street up to Autumn 1922. On 18 November 1922, he made his will in favour of Eva Bevan at a Bridgwater solicitors. The address is not given, just Charles David Llewellyn of Bridgwater
His address when he died in 1926 was 45 Wellington Road; her address when probate was granted was 45 Wellington Road.
So where were they between November 1922 and his death in May 1926?
Jude
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15 Jul 2016 12:44 |
Blimey- it's a bit of a needle in a haystack!
Not the Eva E Shepherd- she was surname Weeks and married Charles C Shepherd in 1902
I'm wondering if anyone lives local to a Central Library in Somerset and could look up the Electoral register for 45 Wellington Road, Bridgwater for you. I wonder if it would give any clues?
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15 Jul 2016 11:08 |
There are two Eva Rogers in 1939 register in Bath - neither with their husband unfortunately! But one born 1910 and one born 1915
There's an Eva E Sheppard in 1939 in Salisbury with DOB 08 July 1880 but I can't find the marriage of Eva E and Charles Sheppard
I too have to go out now! :-)
Jude
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15 Jul 2016 10:43 |
Yes, I did notice that Jude- despite the DOB still think the school record is the Eva from the 1881 census you posted above.
I have to go out now but did wonder about this later marriage. I've just had a quick look but can't see anything obvious that points it to being the same Eva, but just putting it here so I remember to check later:
Marriage: First name(s) EVA Last name BEVAN Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1938 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ EVA BEVAN married WILFRED R ROGERS Spouse's last name ROGERS District BATH County Somerset Volume 5C Page 1435
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15 Jul 2016 10:25 |
AustinQ
Freebmd gives birth as Q3 1880 (it's the only one in Monmouth) so I think the shcool record has the wrong month...but I do agree it is the correct Eva
But it gives me a good pointer!
Jude
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15 Jul 2016 09:59 |
Thanks to Austin's pointer I have written all the articles up...it is entitled Charles David llewellyn - A Black Sheep!
22 July 1907 Evening Express HIS LAST CHANCE Charles David Llewellyn, a well known young man, was at Newport today fined 10 shillings and costs for being drunk in the High Street. As this was the third time within twelve months, and he was warned that another conviction in the year would make him eligible for being sent off to an inebriates home.
4 November 1907 Evening Express
CURE FOR DRUNKENESS Newport Magistrates are adopting a new plan for dealing with habitual drunkards, especially those upon whom all the toher expedients, including detention in inebriates homes, have failed. A young man, named Charles David Llewellyn, of The Elms, Corporation Road, who was said to be the son of very respectable people, and who “doesn’t know when he has a good home” also made his fourth appearance for drunkenness within twelve months, and was therefore qualified to be regarded as an habitual drunkard. Superintendent Brooks said he was breaking his mother’s heart. It would be a good thing if he started to do some work. The Bench decided in his case that as this was his fifth appearance for drunkenness to call upon him to find sureties in ? to behave himself for three months and it was added, “if you commit yourself in that time you will go off”.
9th October 1908 Evening Express
NEWPORT MAN'S VIOLENCE Charles David Llewellyn (29), of 32, Park- square, Newport, the son of a former well- known license, was before the Newport magistrates to-day for being drunk and disorderly in Commercial-street. He attempted to smash the windows of the Grosvenor Inn, where his sister lives, and behaved altogether in a wild and dangerous fashion. Mr. H. S. Lyne, who appeared for defendant's family, said there was no doubt that defendant was at times dangerous, and, apart from the effects of drink, it would be a good thing if his mental condition were inquired into. His mother had already paid a good deal of money in fines for him. As he had been nine times before the court the Bench decided to bind him over for three months 'in his own surety of £ 20, and one other surety of £20 go to prison for three months. Mr. Lyne said his family would not be found for him. The clerk: It is to be hoped, for his own sake, that no one will become surety for him. He will then go to prison.
31 July 1909 Evening Express SIMPLY LARKING A young man named Charles David Llewellyn, the son of respectable parents, was at at Newport today fined 10 shillings for being drunk on licensed premises, The Church House, Portland Street and 20 shillings for assaulting John Waite outside the Tredegar Arms Inn, Church Street, by pulling him off the ladder whilst he was cleaning the window. Defendant said he wasn’t so drunk as not to be entitled to go on licensed premises and as for the other offence he said he was simply larking and did not intend to do any harm to the youth.
28 August 1915 Western Daily Press
Charles David Llewellyn, a visitor to the town, was charged with damaging a plate-glass window, valued at £20, the property of Mr A. Lalonde. Prosecutor deposed that earlier in the morning at about 8:15, he saw the prisoner in Regent Street, behaving in an erratic manner; he was muttering something about a black hand and iron hand and he was going to do something with it. As he came near witness’s plate-glass window, the prisoner smashed his stick through the window subsequently putting his hand affectionately through the window over the broken part. He observed, “Yes, done it I know and I’ll do something else besides”. The window had cost £20. Accused was remanded for a week.
10 September 1915 Wells Journal
Charles David Llewellyn, a visitor from Bath, who was remanded from the previous Friday for Wilful damage to a pane of glass at the shop of Mr A. Lalonde, Regent Street, now admitted he had broken the glass, and said he did not know at the time what he was doing. He had been drinking heavily of late but he would refrain from intoxicants. Superintendent Richardson said the prisone had rather a bad record. The Clerk observed that in regard to the glass, Mr Lalonde was insured. He would, however, have to pay for the fixing etc and he had received an estimate for this amounting to £4 15 shillings. The Bench sentenced the prisoner to three months imprisonment and ordered him to pay the damage.
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15 Jul 2016 07:22 |
Austin Q - Brilliant! I think this thread had already proved he was a bad lot and this is the icing! I wondered if that was the reason why his wife left him for Mervyn and also if that was why they then left their families behind and moved to Bury.
And it would seem he and Eva were a well met match!
Jude
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