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20 Mar 2017 17:26 |
It looks like a number of others were buried in the same grave reference, according to the site Chris posted.
But not husband Ernest Bevan (from 1939 register) who died in 1960. According to Edwards birth her maiden name was Kirk, and the parents marriage is registered Ashton, 1908, they had at least 3 children from what I can see - surely if one of them was alive they would have at least remembered her birthday or age?
I'm not trying to argue against the 1939 Choccy posted, it could well be correct, but rather eliminate this death if possible - on the premise one down, even more to go!! You were dubious the death I posted for CDL was likely - but it turned up to be right as your dad had registered it.
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19 Mar 2017 20:37 |
Looks in, but brain not in gear, lol (nice day out!)
Saw below, Glossop...(from google search)
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[XLS]Glossop burial register - search by Surname
www.highpeak.gov.uk/media/.../Glossop.../Glossop_Cemetery_-_Surname_order.xls 249, Glossop, 21414, 2/12/1947, Alice Eva, Allsop, 46, C of E, 3699. 250, Glossop, 22116, 4/7/ ...... 2166, Glossop, 26212, 11/20/1973, Eva, Bevan, 90, RC, 3040.
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19 Mar 2017 20:24 |
You are assuming that the 1939 (1973 death) is the one I found for the death - what if that isn't the right one? Just throwing doubts on Choccy's find - not sure it is the same person as age is out even more.
Just challenging you out further!
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19 Mar 2017 19:20 |
The Glossop death can't be right...she was in Newport when Edward was born.
So timeline I am sure of: Born 1880 baptised 08 August 1918 imprisoned for 2 months Charles and Maria at 36 Constance Street 1918-1922 Maria dies 09 May 1922 - Charles gone from electoral role by Autumn Writes will 18 November 1922 in Bridgwater, dies 02 MAY 1926..
Roll on 1921 census - back in 4 years time :-)
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19 Mar 2017 15:14 |
You always have to throw a spanner in the works Choccy!!!
But, was her son or husband still around at the time of death - if so why an estimate of birth year and not knowing her dob?
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19 Mar 2017 15:10 |
This could be the Eva Bevan who died in Glossop
1939 Register
Bevan Household (3 People) 19 Peter Sw , Glossop M.B., Derbyshire, England
Eva Bevan 26 Jun 1886 Female Coston Weaver In Factory Now Engaged In Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 67 2 Ernest Bevan 03 Jan 1886 Male General Labourer At Presser Unemployed Married 67 1 Edward Bevan 20 Jan 1920 Male Bus Carries For Cotton & Silk Weavering Factory Single 67 4
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19 Mar 2017 15:08 |
I don't know that the DC will give you any confirmation - likely to have been registered by someone who didn't know her well, hence the "approx" birth year rather than a DOB. She would have been in her 90s so maybe no close family still living or known?
Your uncle was (as you say) a black sheep, so maybe she kept a low profile as well.
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19 Mar 2017 14:59 |
Ha Flip! I re-read this only the other day!
Funnily enough, your post got me going on Eva again today :-) I sort of looked at this death and wondered....
I am almost as sure as I can be that she did not marry - I have looked at several potentials (from 1939 register) and can rule them all out (though I am going to double check.
I have been through all the births of her siblings and, just like her's, the actual birth date or year is wrong on at least half of them in the school records. So I know the registration was September quarter 1880 and therefore I am going for 08 July (she was baptised on 08 August) and not the 08 November in the school record.
I am going to have a go at double-checking this evening and then maybe I will try a death certificate (there aren't many that come near)
Jude
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19 Mar 2017 12:37 |
Your posting on my thread made me come back to this, remembering we still hadn't put Eva to bed.
Have you investigated this death, it's just whoever registered has guessed at her age so couldn't have known her that well.
Deaths Dec 1973 (>99%)
BEVAN EVA ABOUT1884 GLOSSOP 10A 2329
I can't see a probate record, and there is no entry on the Bona Vacantia lists - also not sure if the DC would be of any help in deciding if it is your Eva.
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1 Aug 2016 20:33 |
GAWD, hope his family isn't as complicated as this one! Good to hear from you Jude.
Nice to see you're holding up, and keeping up the research. I'll be back next month with other subs if my internet keeps holding out - can't believe with a booster antenna and Wi-Fi box I've now got 4G:) Absolute luxury - apart from when OH crashes it - MEN.
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1 Aug 2016 20:24 |
I already have a thread on it from a while ago...Steeds, Jarretts and Burrows lol!
Jude
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1 Aug 2016 19:49 |
(uh oh!, awaits those queries then, lol. Glad to see Family History discussed with future in laws Jude, hope eyes weren't 'glazing over' either!)
Keep strong.
Chris :)
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1 Aug 2016 19:23 |
Flip - Hi!
Keeps me busy :-)
Yes I like the 1911 census. It fits with the 1901 census that I had already "assumed". It's worth resurrecting threads every now and then...this time I found out quite what a blackguard Charles was! I think the only way I am going to find more is if they ever release the 1921 census. I am as sure as I can be that Eva and Charles would have been living at 34 Constance Street.
But where she went after Charles died I know not. I can't find a marriage or a death.
Chris is right - it's been too long!
2016 has been an eventful year. My dad died in April - 16 weeks ago today. So I have been busy clearing out the house. And two weeks on Friday, I get to be Mother of the Bride when my younger daughter marries.
Christopher's family are very interesting :-) with a name change!
Jude
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31 Jul 2016 13:57 |
(welcomes back Flip, been too long, lol)
Chris :)
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31 Jul 2016 13:43 |
You never give up do you ;-) Just re-registered on here today, and the first thing I find is your thread. Good to see you're still keeping busy.
For what it's worth I think the 1911 census posted by Choccy is a distinct possibility, also the christening posted earlier looks a likely contender even though it doesn't correspond to the school birth date. Looks like dad registered her in school, and they never remember dates (my ex actually texted me a few months ago to check our son's birth date - but say no more he'd already missed it!)
I haven't yet subscribed to other sites yet - want to see how the mobile broadband holds out as we still can't get a phone line here, but I'll watch your thread with interest.
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18 Jul 2016 17:28 |
Could be...age out, as is birthplace. But raglan is not far from Monmouth ....
Jude
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18 Jul 2016 13:52 |
(FMP have that 1911 as Iva!, Eva on image)
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edits (probates mentioned for Thomas/Lydia, using 'soundex', not seeng!)
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18 Jul 2016 08:57 |
That seems a good possible- her family had moved to Hereford too
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18 Jul 2016 08:45 |
?? has this one been looked at -
1911
Name: Eva Beavar
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Madley
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address: Holstey Farm, Vowchurch, Hereford
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: General Servant Domestic
Registration district: Hereford
Registration District Number: 337 Sub-registration district: Madley ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 15718
Household Members:
Reginald Dyke Jones 52 Eva C W Jones 52 Dorothea Jones 28 Una Jones 27 >>>>>>> Eva Beavar 27 Thomas Young 50
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18 Jul 2016 06:48 |
(Sister was a year out, for School also!, wonder if any help following up siblings, will occupy you till this Xmas, lol)
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Births Jun 1878 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Beavan Elizabeth Mary Monmouth 11a 38
Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ BEVAN Thomas Hereford 6a 751 Price Lydia Hereford 6a 751
Deaths Mar 1927 (>99%) ----------------------------------------- Bevan Lydia 83 Ross 6a 782
1881 (FMP one) Thomas Bevan Head Married Male 38 1843 Farmer Of 78 Acres Kentchurch, Herefordshire, England Lydia Bevan Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Eardisland, Herefordshire, England Thomas Bevan Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales Ellen Bevan Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Grosmont, Herefordshire, England John Bevan Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Monmouthshire, Wales Emily Bevan Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Monmouthshire, Wales Emma Bevan Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Monmouthshire, Wales Elizabeth Bevan Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Monmouthshire, Wales Eva Bevan Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Monmouthshire, Wales Emma Powell Sister Widow Female 50 1831 - Orcop, Herefordshire, England House name Cae Robin Farm Parish Skenfrith County Monmouthshire Country Wales Registration district Monmouth Archive reference RG11 Piece number 5226 Folio 103 Page 7
1871 (FMP) Thomas Bevan Head - Male 30 1841 - Herefordshire, England Lidia Bevan Wife - Female 28 1843 - Herefordshire, England Thomas Bevan Son - Male 2 1869 - Herefordshire, England Elen Bevan Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Monmouthshire, Wales Mary Phillips Mother - Female 60 1811 - Monmouthshire, Wales Street Stafcrow Parish Grosmont County Herefordshire Registration district Hereford Archive reference RG10 Piece number 2702 Folio 17 Page 11
edits (apologies, suggested by Flip below!, is that Thomas Death that was added?)
Flip Report 17 May 2015 09:46
Deaths Mar 1917 ------------------------------------------------ Bevan Thomas 75 Kington 6a 892
(one sorted!, Emily Bevan M. Reuben G Meredith, 1899. 1939 matches her Birth, from School Record, 1911 at Cae Robin!. Burial 1953 Reuben. The Chestnuts, Grosmont, where they are 1939. His probate 1954, to Emily)
Births Jun 1877 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------- BEAVAN Emma Monmouth 11a 36
(School for above, 29/3/78)
Births Sep 1872 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------- BEVAN John Monmouth 11a 31
(School for above, 27/6/73)
Births Mar 1869 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- BEAVON Thomas Hereford 6a 499
(School for above, 2/2/69) (Before Marriage 1870?)
Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Beavan Thomas Hereford 6a 1069 Morgan Sarah Ann Hereford 6a 1069
(above 1911, Orcop, Heref., also with him Brother James William from 1891)
Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bevan Joseph A Thomas Abergavenny 11a 103 Thomas Alice Bevan Abergavenny 11a 103
(for Son, Joseph Amos 1891, image FMP, Father Thomas. Deceased)
Births Mar 1887 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ BEAVAN Amos Joseph Monmouth 11a 29
(Baptism 1887 FMP)
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