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Think my face looks a bit the same too!, lol, so many names on here, not got a clue!...

Is this now for Scotland, or still Cornwall?...


(if Scotland, perhaps adding to your Topic heading, might help)

Chris :)

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tracie62 Report 28 Sep 2012 00:11

Sorry, didnt mean to be so vague.. Ann Cardiff that was very generous of you and i certainly appreciate your time. You have the definatly right people:)


Thomas Bullock born 1747 St Enoder,Cornwall wife Ann Basely born 1743 St Columb Major married .

Emund Bullock born 1712 St Enoder, Cornwall married Grace Coad

Thomas Bullock born c1798 married Jane Jelbart born c1800

Mary Jane Stephens born c1845 father William Stephens mother Marianne Smith???? Mary Jane married Joseph Bullock 1865 in Redruth.


My biggest brick wall is my scottish side..William Ferguson born c1745 married Agnes Taylor children: Agnes 1771 Robert 1774 William 1776 Archibald 1778 Alexander 1781 John 1785 Throsk, St Ninians, George 1787 Throsk, St Ninians

:-S

http://cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(not sure if above of use with anything, can be good for Cornwall)


http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.aspx

(Essex gradually adding Parishes online, you can check above, subscription needed)


https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

(above for Scotland)

Chris :)


edits (and the below can be useful too, if not already mentioned)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Do as much research as you can in Oz, it'll make the UK more rewarding.

Lets look at Joseph in Ann's 27/9/12 22:13 post

Firstly, where is St Buryan - is it a parish, a chapelry in some other parish, or just some small churchless hamlet.

Normally, I look this up in Lewis (1848) A Topographical Dictionary of England
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445

I expected to see: BARYON (ST), a parish, in the union of Penzance... etc.
However, it's not listed.

So I look it up at: http://maps.familysearch.org/
I list all the 1850s parishes in Cornwall, then add the rego district layer in the left column.
(The early RDs were based on the poor law unions)

Although for 1815, it doesn't matter what the RD is, but might later on.
So I check up on Penzance - I look up some event in Penzance at FreeBMD:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Here I picked the death of some John in 1837 and got:
Deaths Sep 1837 (>99%)
BARNES John Penzance 9 103
etc
Now if I click on the "Penzance" link, then the more info "here" link, I get to see a list of all the places in Penzance RD (incl St Buryan)

The Scottish online equivalent of Lewis is Groome (1896) Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/gazetteer/
You can also download maps there showing parishes for any Scottish county (incl Stirling).

I can look up St Buryan at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
It takes me to an URL that contains x=140500&y=25500
The coordinates measure the easting(x) in metres and northing(y) from the base point (100km W of Scilly Isles)
[Leading zeros are dropped - so the northing has only 5 digits here]
The blue grid lines are 1km apart, so if I were to guess the coords for, say, Sparnon 2km SW of St Buryan, my guess would 139800,24100 to nearest 100m.

I can go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html and enter the coords for Sparnon, then click on the oldest map in right column.
It's only 1878, but fortunately the larger scale 1:2500 (abt 25" to mile) rather than 1:10560 (6" to mile).

There's another coord system used sometimes - replace the leading digit pair with a magic letter pair (so for 1,0 it's SW) and run all the remaining #s together, and drop as many as you want to get the accuracy you desire
so Sparnon would be SW398241 to 100m and St Buryan church would be SW409257 - to the nearest km, St Buryan would be in the square SW4025

http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/SW4025

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Now for some more genological stuff. A useful resource is:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

Amongst the collections there are the (unindexed) images of some Cornish parish registers (incl St Buryan & St Levan).
Thus, I can see the baptism record for Joseph - it doesn't name his mother as Ann Richards, but as Anne Jelbert (we're in Cornwall, not Scotland!!).

Also, for Cornwall, all the censuses thru 1891 are transcribed at
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

1851 Census
Piece: HO107/1919 Place: Scilly Islands -Cornwall Enumeration District: 1d
Civil Parish: St. Buryan Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 418 Page: 2 Schedule: 4
Address: Sparnon
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
JELBART Joseph Head M M 35 Blacksmith Master Emp 1 Man Cornwall - St Buryan
JELBART Joyce Wife M F 28 Cornwall - St Marys, Scilly Is.
JELBART John Son - M 4 Cornwall - St Marys, Scilly Is.
JELBART Thomas Son - M 2 Cornwall - St Buryan
JELBART Everet Son - M 9m Cornwall - St Buryan
CHAPPLE Priscilla Servnt U F 15 General Servant Cornwall - St Levan

I like their display - it's nice to copy and paste into my notes - also I can click thru adjacent h/h's easily
Also 1901's free somewhere, I've never looked where.

For Lancs, 2 very useful resources are:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ and
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Even if you've found a BMD in the GRO index, it's worth checking LancsBMD - e.g.,

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
OLDHAM Sarah Jane Colne Preston COL/39/28

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1865
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
OLDHAM Joshua Burnley Preston THORNS BU/70/29

As you see, difft info is indexed - for Bs & Ds, it gives the subdistrict within Burnley RD where the event was rego'ed.
Also, they're currently retro-fitting the mum's MS=Maiden Surname to the index.
(They've gotten to 1877 for Burnley subdistrict, but they've not started on Colne yet).
Also, they index age at death pre-1866

For marrs they index by entry #, so one knows who wed whom pre-1912


FreeCEN also has transcribed all of the county of Stirling for 1841-1851, but nothing later.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm
Saint Ninians
C114881 1855-1867 M114881 1855-1875
C114882 1643-1687 M114882 1643-1687
C114883 1868-1875 M114887 1688-1754 1774-1870
C114884 1688-1731 M114888 1820-1866
C114885 1731-1783 M114889 1707-1804
C114886 1783-1819 M195342 1646-1664
C114888 1820-1854
C195321 1731-1783
C195341 1690-1727
C195342 1644-1687

Batch #s can be usefil on FS to limit your search to one parish for a particular time-frame.
Unless there are a large # of events (like a city, or regos that go back a long way, like here), a Scottish batch # will take the form C11pppn for a C of S christening, or M11pppn for a C of S marr.
ppp is the parish #, so 488=St Ninians, n=1/3 refer the the GROS index, so range is 1855-1875ish. Higher #s are newer.

I love doing it - we all do - it was a pleasure!! When you get to UK don't forget to come on here and let us know how you are enjoying yourself!!

I'm in Wales so doesn't look as if you'll be coming here

Ann XX

I would like to take this opportunity to offer my heartfelt thanks for your all your kindness in helping me research my family tree..

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name: Thomas Reeve
gender: Male
death: Colchester,,Essex,Eng
AFN: 2C6R-KD1

Parents
father: Walter Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-GVD )
mother: Hide (AFN: 2C6R-GJB )

Marriages (1)
spouse: Margaret Shilberry (AFN: 2C6R-J46 )
Hide children (2)

child 1: Ann_I Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-JTJ )
gender: Female

child 2: William Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-LMM )
gender: Male
BIRTH ,,,Eng
DEATH Mollenden,,Suffolk,Eng

name: William Reeve
gender: Male
birth: ,,,Eng
death: Mollenden,,Suffolk,Eng
AFN: 2C6R-LMM

Parents
father: Thomas Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-KD1 )
mother: Margaret Shilberry (AFN: 2C6R-J46 )

Marriages (1)
spouse: Rose Armyger (AFN: 2C6R-L5Q )
marriage: ABT 1579
Hide children (9)

child 1: ?Robert Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-NH5 )
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1575
,,,Eng
DEATH Hornedge,,Essex,Eng
BURIAL ,,Essex,Eng

child 2: Francis_I Reeve (AFN: 2C6V-192 )
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1580

DEATH 1639
Hubbard Hall,Harlow,Essex,Eng

child 3: William_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-MLL )
gender: Male
DEATH 1675
Mountnessing,,Essex,Eng
BURIAL MAR 1675
Romford Ch,,Essex,Eng

child 4: George Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-MVF )
gender: Male

child 5: John_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-M02 )
gender: Male

child 6: Charles Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-LJ6 )
gender: Male

child 7: Katherine Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-Q20 )
gender: Female

child 8: Thomas_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-QRB )
gender: Male

child 9: Henry Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-MDJ )
gender: Male

don't much care for the place where this chap died!!!


name: Robert_II Reeve
gender: Male
birth: ABT 1600
,,,Eng
death: JAN 1670/1671
Havering Plain,,Essex,Eng
burial: 3 JAN 1670/1671
Shallow Bowels,Romford,Essex,Eng
AFN: 2C6R-PCH

Parents
father: ?Robert Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-NH5 )

name: John_III Reeve
gender: Male
birth: 3 NOV 1623
,,Essex,Eng
death: ABT 1694
,,Essex,Eng
AFN: 2C6Z-VRN

Parents
father: Robert_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-PCH )

Marriages (1)
spouse: ?Wiltshire (AFN: 2C6Z-VZW )
Hide children (6)

child 1: Wiltshire Reeve (AFN: 2C6Z-X43 )
gender: Male
DEATH ABT 1706
Hubbards Hall,Harlow,Essex,Eng

child 2: John Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-SHT )
gender: Male

child 3: Anne_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-R9F )
gender: Female

child 4: Letitia Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-RZK )
gender: Female

child 5: Francis_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6T-VVQ )
gender: Male
DEATH ABT 1716


child 6: Susannah Reeve (AFN: 2C6T-TWR )
gender: Female
BIRTH ABT 1665

DEATH ABT 1715
,,Henrico,VA

name: William Reeve
gender: Male
birth: ,,,Eng
death: Mollenden,,Suffolk,Eng
AFN: 2C6R-LMM

Parents
father: Thomas Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-KD1 )
mother: Margaret Shilberry (AFN: 2C6R-J46 )

Marriages (1)
spouse: Rose Armyger (AFN: 2C6R-L5Q )
marriage: ABT 1579
Hide children (9)

child 1: ?Robert Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-NH5 )
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1575
,,,Eng
DEATH Hornedge,,Essex,Eng
BURIAL ,,Essex,Eng

child 2: William_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6R-MLL )
gender: Male
DEATH 1675
Mountnessing,,Essex,Eng
BURIAL MAR 1675
Romford Ch,,Essex,Eng

child 3: George Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-MVF )
gender: Male

child 4: Francis_I Reeve (AFN: 2C6V-192 )
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1580

DEATH 1639
Hubbard Hall,Harlow,Essex,Eng

child 5: Katherine Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-Q20 )
gender: Female

child 6: Thomas_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-QRB )
gender: Male

child 7: Henry Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-MDJ )
gender: Male

child 8: John_II Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-M02 )
gender: Male

child 9: Charles Reeve (AFN: 2C6K-LJ6 )
gender: Male

a nice old one here!!!!

name: Dorothy /Oldham/
gender: Female
birth: ABT 1125
Essex, England


Marriages (1)
spouse: Walter /Teye/
Hide children (1)

child 1: Richard /Teye/
gender: Male
BIRTH ABT 1145
, Essex, England



shedloads of Oldham's on the Familysearch site

Dick's in St Ninians are easy to find on this free site

www.familysearch.org

name: John DICK
gender: Male
birth: Abt 1617
St. Ninians, Stirling, , Scotland
AFN: 17WL-FZ1

Marriages (1)
spouse: Janet LIDDELL (AFN: 17WL-G06 )
Hide children (8)

child 1: Janet DICK (AFN: 17WL-G57 )
gender: Female
BIRTH 10 Oct 1662


child 2: David DICK (AFN: 17WL-G6F )
gender: Male
BIRTH 11 Feb 1666


child 3: John DICK (AFN: 17WL-G3S )
gender: Male
BIRTH 20 Nov 1659


child 4: Andrew DICK (AFN: 17WL-G7M )
gender: Male
BIRTH 8 Nov 1668


child 5: Andrew DICK (AFN: 17WL-G1D )
gender: Male
BIRTH 22 Feb 1649
St. Ninians, Stirling, , Scotland
CHRISTENING 22 Feb 1649
St. Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

child 6: Christian DICK (AFN: 17WL-G41 )
gender: Female
BIRTH 2 Mar 1662


child 7: James DICK (AFN: 17WL-G8T )
gender: Male
BIRTH 13 Jul 1673


child 8: Dick (AFN: 17WL-G2L )
gender: Male
BIRTH 3 May 1646

name: Andrew DICK
gender: Male
birth: 22 Feb 1649
St. Ninians, Stirling, , Scotland
christening: 22 Feb 1649
St. Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
AFN: 17WL-G1D

Parents
father: John DICK (AFN: 17WL-FZ1 )
mother: Janet LIDDELL

Marriages (1)
spouse: Janet ADAM (AFN: 17WL-J2X )
Hide children (4)

child 1: Henry DICK (AFN: 1QVQ-555 )
gender: Male
CHRISTENING 19 Feb 1671
St. Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

child 2: John DICK (AFN: 1QVQ-54X )
gender: Male
CHRISTENING 8 May 1664
St. Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

child 3: Marion DICK (AFN: WRZT-WL )
gender: Female
BIRTH 9 Aug 1674
St. Ninians, Stirling, , Scotland
CHRISTENING 9 Aug 1674
St. Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

child 4: Christian DICK (AFN: 17WL-FWL )
gender: Female
BIRTH 20 Oct 1668
St. Ninians, Stirling, , Scotland
CHRISTENING 20 Oct 1668
St. Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

Robert Ferguson
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse: Sophia Mcclairine
child: Anne Ferguson


name: Anne Ferguson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 08 Aug 1737
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: Robert Ferguson
mother's name: Sophia Mcclairine
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-5
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041956

William Fergusone
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse: Elspeth Meiklchrist
child: Androw Fergusone


name: Androw Fergusone
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Sep 1686
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: William Fergusone
mother's name: Elspeth Meiklchrist
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-2
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041955

????

Fergusone
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 03 Feb 1650 ,? SAINT NINIANS,? STIRLING,? SCOTLAND
residence: St. Ninians,? Stirlingshire,? Scotland
parents: Robert Fergusone


name: Fergusone
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Feb 1650
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: Robert Fergusone
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-2
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041955

Fergison
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 16 May 1658 ,? SAINT NINIANS,? STIRLING,? SCOTLAND
residence: St. Ninians,? Stirlingshire,? Scotland
parents: David Fergison,? Margaret Steinsone


name: Fergison
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 16 May 1658
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: David Fergison
mother's name: Margaret Steinsone
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-2
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041955

now with the dob of these two - one of them is likely to be your William who married Agnes Taylor


Ferguson
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 08 Jun 1748 ,? SAINT NINIANS,? STIRLING,? SCOTLAND
residence: St. Ninians,? Stirlingshire,? Scotland
parents: Thomas Ferguson,? Jane Williamson


name: Ferguson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Jun 1748
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: Thomas Ferguson
mother's name: Jane Williamson
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-5
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041956

Ferguson
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 04 Aug 1747 ,? SAINT NINIANS,? STIRLING,? SCOTLAND
residence: St. Ninians,? Stirlingshire,? Scotland
parents: David Ferguson,? Margaret Shaw


name: Ferguson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Aug 1747
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: David Ferguson
mother's name: Margaret Shaw
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-5
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041956

Ferguson
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 17 Dec 1675 ,? SAINT NINIANS,? STIRLING,? SCOTLAND
residence: St. Ninians,? Stirlingshire,? Scotland
parents: Forrest Ferguson,? Jonet Miller


name: Ferguson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Dec 1675
baptism/christening place: , SAINT NINIANS, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
father's name: Forrest Ferguson
mother's name: Jonet Miller
indexing project (batch) number: C11488-2
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041955