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1851 (just adding)

COLLINGS, Edward Head Married M 27 1824 Coach Trimmer
Devonport
COLLINGS, Sarah Wife Married F 27 1824 Nill
Plymouth
COLLINGS, Edwin Son M 5 1846 Scholar
Isle of Jersey
COLLINGS, William Son M 2 1849
Whitechapel
COLLINGS, Henry Son M 0 (7 MOS) 1851
Bethnal Green
Piece: 1542
Folio: 280
Page: 20
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: 25, Carlile Street, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Chris :)

Hi Chris, yes the same as I can get but no further on Edward or his 'wife' , just seems to disappear, unless......
And Edwin bn in Jersey is another elusive character.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abneypark/abneyy.html

(Burial on above link, if below Death)


Deaths Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Collings Edward 66 Hackney 1b 375

Chris :)


Deaths Mar 1895 (>99%)
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Collings Sarah 72 Hackney 1b 363

(also on above link)

Wonder if this is Sarah, before marriage?


1841 Channel Islands Census
about Sarah Gloynes
Name: Sarah Gloynes
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: England

Civil parish: St Helier
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands

Registration district: Jersey
Sub-registration district: Jersey
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1461
Book: 8
Folio: 21
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Gloynes 50
Sarah Gloynes 15
Albert Gloynes 11

Hello Raymond, it might be an idea if you delete the new thread you have started as people are already working here

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1310924?jump=1310924

will do sorry
I think Sarah was bn in Plymouth, not sure where I got that from <3

Sorry Marie, I have deleted it.

is this the Edwins?

1881 census
1881 England Census about Edwin John Collings
Name: Edwin John Collings
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwin John Collings
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Collings
Gender: Male
Where born: Penryn, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: St Gluvias
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address: West Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub-registration district: Penryn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2319
Folio: 76
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin John Collings 38
Elizabeth Collings 38
Eliza Jane Collings 17
Annie Collings 12
William Henry Collings 10
Elizabeth Collings 9
Beatrice Collings 7
Edwin John Collings 6
Ellen Maude Collings 2
Elsie Collings 5 months

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2319; Folio: 76; Page: 15; GSU roll: 1341557.


you didnt give any of the childrens names other than Edwin jnr born c1876


EDIT not this family as the children dont come up on the 1891 census with his new wife

1891
Name: Edwin Collings
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Collings
Gender: Male
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Clerkenwell St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Amwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 225
Folio: 142
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Collings 48
Mary Ann Collings 36
Edwin Collings 14
Arthur Collings 12
Robert Collings 11b tottenham
Anny Mahoney 26

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 225; Folio: 142; Page: 41; GSU roll: 6095335.



the youngest sons birth cert will give his mums name

Births Sep 1879
Collings Robert William Pancras 1b 64 (Pancras covered Tottenham)

Where did Sarah and Edwin marry please?

Sarah Gloyns was married to Edward not Edwin? I dont know where they got married I cant find a marriage certificate, I have children as Edwin (jersey), William (whitechapel), Henry (bethnal green)
I think Edward was at some stage may have been called Edwin in error, and Gloyns I havent seen with an 'e'.
I have a copy of Williams birth cert 1850

Just a thought, if Sarah Gloyns was from Jersey then they may have married there, in which case we won't find a marriage on the usual BMD records.

We need 'JerseyLily'

(first Marriage)

Name: Edwin Collings (Coach Trimmer)
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Anne Payne
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Oct 1865
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Edwin Collings (Coach Trimmer)
Spouse Father Name: William John Payne
Register Type: Parish Register

(address as, 8, Britannia Row)

Chris :)

Thats brilliant looks good :-)

Morning to you all.
Have we come to the end of where we can go with this do you think? :-D

Morning Raymond, if you go to your very first post on this thread and click "edit" you can get back to amend the title. I'd suggest putting something to denote help needed with Jersey records.

If JerseyLily is around she may pick this up and be able to advise.

(having to go out now, will look in later!)

But, someone is coming up on google, who claims on son William's Marriage 1878, says Father Edward Deceased?...


Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
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Bass Henry Hackney 1b 774
COLLINGS William Hackney 1b 774
HOLDSWORTH Diana Hackney 1b 774
Hunter Elizabeth Sarah Hackney 1b 774

(so, not Father Edward, Death 1880?...

Chris :)

That marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Collings, bachelor. Blacksmith, living 26 Montague Road.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Age: 30
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Sarah Hunter, spinster. Living 19 Victoria Road.
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Jun 1878
Parish: Hackney St Luke
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Edward Collings (deceased) Coach Trimmer
Spouse Father Name: James Hunter (deceased) Carman
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Henry Lovesay and Mary Lovesay.

This is the probate for that 1880 death:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Edward Collings
Probate Date: 16 Apr 1880
Death Date: 18 Feb 1880
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

A gardener. Lived and died at 8 Cumberland Terrace, Bouverie Road, Stoke Newington. Probate to Sarah Collings, widow the relict.


and the 1895:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Sarah Collings
Probate Date: 25 Mar 1895
Death Date: 21 Feb 1895
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

Same address as for William d1880. Probate to Ann Jane Nash, spinster. Effects £396 9s 5d