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marriage between Elmes and Attwood

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Sep 2012 16:58

So she wasn't MRS Attwood when she travelled .....

But where does Elmes come in?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Sep 2012 16:55

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Attwood John A W Attwood W.Bromwich 6b 607

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2012 16:45

??


Name: Mrs Eva Blanche ATTWOOD
Date of departure: 7 January 1921
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Bombay
Destination country: India
Date of Birth: 1899 (calculated from age)
Age: 22
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Milliner
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 8
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
John Alexander ATTWOOD age 1
Ship: NEURALIA
Official Number: 133081
Master's name: J H Addenbrooke
Steamship Line: British India Steam Navigation Company
Where bound: Bombay, India

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Sep 2012 16:42

I'm hazarding a guess this might be the husband of the woman above, but I emphasise I have my speculating hat on here!

Name: Arthur G Elmes
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1934
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Depwade
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 229

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Sep 2012 16:38

Is this her by any chance?

Name: Eva B Elmes
Spouse Frederick A Alger
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1936
Registration district: Depwade
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 393

Name: Eva Blanche Alger
Birth Date: 15 May 1898
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1979
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Cirencester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 2096

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2012 16:37

1911 census transcription details for: 23 Woodland Road Handsworth Birmingham
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17209 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED4 SN223
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Handsworth
Parish: Handsworth
Enum. District: 4
Address: 23 Woodland Road Handsworth Birmingham
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ATTWOOD, Frank Leopold Head Married M 36 1875 Rolled Metal Manufacturer Newcastle on Tynne
ATTWOOD, Rose Wife Married
14 years F 37 1874 Northumberlandshire
ATTWOOD, Eva Blanch Daughter F 12 1899 School Warwickshire Birmingham
ATTWOOD, Frank Arthur Son M 9 1902 Warwickshire Birmingham
ATTWOOD, Margaret Louisa Daughter F 5 1906 Staffordshire Handworth


1901 census transcription details for: 11, Woodland Road, Handsworth
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2708
Folio: 101
Page: 1
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Handsworth
Parish: Handsworth
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Woodland Road, Handsworth
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ATTWOOD, Frank L Head Married M 26 1875 Manager Of Rolled Metal Works
Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland
ATTWOOD, Rose Wife Married F 27 1874
Birmingham, Warwickshire
ATTWOOD, Eva B Daughter F 2 1899
Birmingham, Warwickshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Sep 2012 16:37

Your mother's birth cert will name her father...........as will her marriage cert


Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Sep 2012 16:26

Quite right, this looks like her birth


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Births Jun 1898

Attwood Eva Blanche - Aston 6d 463

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Sep 2012 16:24

Mike, I don't think they are the same woman - one is born 1873 and the other (on the marriage) born 1899.

The one born 1873 would be a tad too old to be having children in the 1920s.

There are a number of ladies with surname Elmes dying in England with first names which are permutations of Eva or Blanche - I'm wondering if the mothers name given is incorrect.

Or did Mr Gvott change his name?

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Sep 2012 16:21

Different father here ....so maybe there are 2


name: Eva Blanche Attwood
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 06 Apr 1873
baptism/christening place: ALLHALLOWS LONDON WALL,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 11 Mar 1873
father's name: John Attwood
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Fanny Isabella


EDIT : ( WRONG DATE, but maybe a family connection so I'll not delete)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Sep 2012 16:12

What you're saying doesn't really tie up with this marriage:

India, Marriages, 1792-1948

groom's name: Edwin Gvott
groom's birth date: 1893
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 28
bride's name: Eva Blanche Attwood
bride's birth date: 1899
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 22
marriage date: 02 May 1921
marriage place: Jubbulpur, Bengal, India
groom's father's name: Andrew John Gvott
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Frank Leopold Attwood
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M75050-8
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 527926
reference number:
Citing this Record

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJ3-Y48

I'd be quite surprised if there were two women with her name in the same place at that time.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Sep 2012 16:10

Hello Anne and welcome to the boards.

Do you believe the marriage was in India?

Your mother's marriage certificate would have her father's name on it.

anne

anne Report 18 Sep 2012 16:08

my nan eva blanche attwood married an elmes....first name unknown....they had two children a son john kendrick elmes born 1920 and a daughter(my mum) born sept 20 1923 in the army barracks in jubblupore pakistan.i would really like to find out who my grand father was his name,d.o.b,and date of marriage.i would be very gratful for any imformation anyone could offer thanx....anne.