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Doing this for a friend but we only have a name and birth year from a death in 1925.

Lottie Maney 1891 married Alfred J Coles in Winchester in 1916.

They had two daughters as far as we know and possibly one son called Douglas as Lottie died in childbirth in 1925 with another son Bertram Coles march quarter 1925 same death as Lottie and one number out.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Lottie Cole
Name: Lottie Cole
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 595

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Bertram Cole
Name: Bertram Cole
Birth Date: abt 1925
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 596

We don't know where Lottie was born or even if her name was Lottie or Charlotte Maney. Her other children were Joyce Coles and Betty Coles and we have found their births.

Can any of you clever boys and girls find Lottie on any census please as I have looked nearly all day and I can't find her.

My friend seems to think that Lottie was in the Bristol area in 1911???

There is a possible Alfred J Coles born in Glous 1891.

She is going to buy thier marriage cert so we can see what she has put down as her father's name and occupation but that is going to take a while.

Sorry for the long post and hoping someone can shed some light on this for us.

Thanking you for any info found.

Mel

These are the births of their children.


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Betty Coles
Name: Betty Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Maney *****************
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1917
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 646



England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Joyce Coles
Name: Joyce Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Mainey ******************
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 851



England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Bertram Cole
Name: Bertram Cole
Mother's Maiden Surname: Mancy ************************
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 621

Hi the marriage she is known as lottie on marriage


Marriage Record Name Lottie Maney
Year of Marriage 1916
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Winchester
Registration County Hampshire
Spouse's Surname Coles
Volume Number 2C
Volume Page 299

Spouse Match: Lottie MANEY married Alfred J COLES

Name Alfred J Coles
Year of Marriage 1916
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Winchester
Registration County Hampshire
Spouse's Surname Maney
Volume Number 2C
Volume Page 299

Mel

Your friend needs the marriage certifcate to check the fathers names

Thanks Polly we have seen the marriage but hav'nt got the cert yet.

My friend said her aunt said her name was Lottie and not Charlotte but this aunt has now died so we hav'nt anyone else to ask now.

1911 Census Record
Personal Information
Name Florence Maney
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Condition Single
Gender F
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Occupation General Servant Domestic
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London
Enumerator Information
Address 16 Southfield Road
Parish Bristol
Type of Building
Private Ho
Number of Rooms 10 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference
RG14PN14859 RG78PN901 RD319 SD1 ED34 SN116
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Registration District Bristol
Registration Sub District Clifton
Enumeration District 34
Reference Information
Folio 231
Page 1
Piece 14859
RD number 319
SD number 1
ED number 34
Schedule 116


TRYING TO THINK WHAT LOTTIE COULD BE SHORT FOR

It is usually Charlotte.

Lottie is, of course, the common abbreviation for Charlotte but I have a friend Lorraine who gets Lottie.

Could also be Laura or Loretta.

Hmm had'nt thought of those names.

Thanks MarieCeleste.

Have to feed oh now so will have to leave it now till the morning or he will get cross!!!! :-|

I looked at the marriage on FreeBMD with Maney in the surname with Coles as the spouse. I found that fine and looked at the image which also shows Maney.

So I thought I would see how Lottie's name came up in the original with her as the first surname.

Couldn't find it. Apparently no record. Put Alfred's details in and she is transcribed as Money against Alfred's name.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Coles Alfred J Money Winchester 2c 299
Jowett Maurice Moore Bradfield 2c 299
Maney Lottie Coles Winchester 2c 299

The only Lottie Money I could find is this one. I can't find a death for Henry either so I doubt it is yours.

1911 Census Household Record

Household information
Address Wyddial Buntingford
Parish Wyddial
Town Wyddial Buntingford
Type of Building Cottage
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN7533 RG78PN368 RD135 SD1 ED10 SN9
Administrative County Hertfordshire
Registration District Royston
Registration Sub District Buntingford
Enumeration District 10
Householder 1
Name Henry James Money
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married / 9 Years
Gender M
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Occupation Gardener Domestic
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Puntry Monmouth
Householder 2
Name Lottie Money
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married
Total Children Born Alive 1
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hertford Heath Herts
Householder 3
Name Henry Herbert Wright
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Occupation Chauffeur Domestic
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Maidstone Kent

found this one as possible

1911 Census RecordPersonal Information
Name Laura Maney
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition Single
Gender F
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Occupation Book Keeper Printers
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Yorks Leeds
Enumerator Information
Address 20 Broomfield Terc Headingley
Parish Leeds
Town Broomfield Terc Headingley
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN27080 RG78PN1549 RD500 SD4 ED27 SN101
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Registration District Leeds
Registration Sub District Kirkstall
Enumeration District 27
Reference Information
Folio 201
Page 1
Piece 27080
RD number 500
SD number 4
ED number 27
Schedule 101

Jill I think I had looked at that census.

Jill/Polly

Which site do you get your census info from?

Ive never seen it....transcribed like that?

Hi Gins,

I get mine from GR. Because I often find that census' spread out unpleasantly if I cut and paste them straight onto here, I paste onto an e-mail (suppose a blank document would work too) first then copy and paste back on here.

xJ

Jill

You mean you pay....for every look at a census?

x

No. I have Platinum. What is it about the way the ones I put up are presented on here that you see is different?xx

German?

Marriage Winchester, children born Devon - must be a reason.

Oh, Yikes


I cant believe you lot are using your GR subs/PAYG to help others!

Hi Gins,

I'm not PAYG. My Platinum covers 1911. What am I missing here? x