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Sarah Addis and elizabeth i believe were sisters who married father and son. James was born in ligoneil but i cant find the birth for 1879 as he states on wedding cert he is 24 yrs old and i cant find any of his dads 2 marriages either but on the census in 1901 vit shows elizabeth from scotland so I wonder if he married her there then she came to live in belfast. I dont know if there was issues in 1st marriage other than James but would love to find these details. Thank you for you help

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I thought it was Sarah Addis/McBarron that married James Armstrong in 1903?




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Name: Elizabeth Kennedy
Registration District: Belfast
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1903
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101260
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 278
Digital Folder Number: 4199362
Image Number: 00278


Name: James Armstrong
Registration District: Belfast
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1903
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101260
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 278
Digital Folder Number: 4199362
Image Number: 00264

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name: James Elbert Armstrong
registration district: Belfast
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1884
volume number: 1
page number: 244
digital folder number: 4193461


1911 (James (Junior) living in the same street as his father and same occupation as James (Senior)


Residents of a house 18 in Wier Street (Shankill, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Armstrong James 29 Male Head of Family Prisberterian Co Antrim Cementer Shipyard Read and write - Married - 7 - -
Armstrong Elizabeth 31 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Antrim - No Cannot read - Married - 7 5 5
Armstrong Robert 6 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Antrim At School No Cannot read - Single - - - -
Armstrong Lizzie 4 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Antrim - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Armstrong James 2 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Antrim - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Armstrong David Male Son Church of Ireland Co Antrim - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Kennedy Alice 11 Female Step Daughter Church of Ireland Scotland Scholar Read and write - Single - -

james and elizabeth addis is the same james of sancroft st above in 1901 census aged 18 yrs old. on the elizabeth death she is 35 in 1903, but in census she 37 in 1901. i dont seem to find a marriage in 1903/4 for sarah and james at all but her name is changed i have found a sarah pentland marrying a james but is same one. if i could find james at 18 birth then i will find his mum maiden name of elizabeth who died in 1903. she was born glasgow on census

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Residents of a house 13 in Sancroft Street (Shankhill, Antrim)

Armstrong James 40 Male Head of Family Prespterian Co Antrim, Ballymena Cementer of Boats Read and write No Married -

Armstrong James 18 Male Son Prespterian Belfast, City Legouees Labourer in Ship Building Yard Read and write No Not Married -

Armstrong Elizabeth 37 Female Wife Prespterian



The 1911 census where it states married 8 years, fits with a marriage in 1903. Maybe Elizabeth died just after the 1901 census


This looks like her death. When in 1903 did Sarah marry James?


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Elizabeth Armstrong
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1903
Death Age: 35
Registration district: Belfast
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 189
FHL Film Number: 101602



Cant see a marriage for Sarah and James in 1903. There is a marriage between a James Armstrong and Elizabeth Addis????

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Sarah Ann Addis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1898
Registration district: Belfast
Volume: 1
Page: 324 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101259

Spouse: Michael m Mabarron

thank you i see on these 1911 it show he 8 yrs married but i think in 1901 james is with wife and son elizabeth and james so that means that he married while still married to elizabeth unless she deid in 1902/3 but cant see that he would of married striaght away or he would of been going out with sarah surely before they married. confusing or were did elizabeth go??

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Sarah Ann Addis
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1868
Birth Place: Belfast No 5, Ant, Ireland
Baptism Place: Belfast No 5, Ant, Ireland
Father's Name: Robert Addis
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Greenaway
FHL Film Number: 101175

1901 -for ref.

Residents of a house 11 in Pernan Street (Shankhill, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Mc Barron Sarrah Ann 30 Female Daughter Church of Ireland County Antrim Yarn Spinner in Mill Read write - Widower -
Kennedy Eliza 23 Female Daughter Church of Ireland County Antrim Yarn Spinner in Mill Read write - Widower -
Kennedy Alice 1 Female Grand Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast, County Antrim - - - - -
Mc Barron Claria 2 Female Grand Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast, County Antrim - - - - -
Mc Barron Eliza Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic Church of Rome Belfast, County Antrim - - - - -
Addis Robert 54 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland County Armagh General Smith Read write - Married -
Addis Eliza 56 Female Wife Church of Ireland County Armagh House Keeper Read write - Married -


1911

Residents of a house 24 in Wier Street (Shankill, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Armstrong James 49 Male Head of Family Prisbiterian Co Antrim Cementer In Shipyard Read and write - Married - 8 - -
Armstrong Sarah Ann 38 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Antrim - Cannot - Married - 8 6 6
Armstrong Edward 7 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Armstrong Mary Ann 5 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Armstrong John 3 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Armstrong Sarah Ann 1 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast - Cannot read - Single - - - -
McBarnes Clara 12 Female Step Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
McBarnes Elizabeth 10 Female Step Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

sarah married michael mcbarron had two daughters but then was widowed in 1901

1903 married james armstrong of weir st belfast and had 5 children but not sure what huband had died of but he was widowed in 1902/3 and had a son james born ligoneil abt 1879.

I would like to trace desentants of james and sarah but i think she then married after james died possibly 1937 ish and she remarried nicholl but cant be sure. was still in weir st belfast in 1930/40. as seen on street directories but dont know when died or his son to 1st marriage to elizabeth ???,

can anyone point me to right place to lokk plz