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Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:15

Please could someone give me advice on how I would track a death?

I cannot find her at all.

I have had people that are also tracing her and have had no luck.

I know she was in Bromley Institution but I now believe it has been built over!

And I am thinking she died in there?????

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. :-(

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2012 22:20

Name?

Born when?

Last known to be alive..............when?

On which website have you looked?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 20 Aug 2012 22:21

Where have you looked for the death?

when was she last known to be alive?

when was she born?

Did she get married?

Roy

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:25

Ethel Harriet Coppard nee Weeden.

Born Mar 1885 and married 1909 to Frederick Henry Coppard.

1911 lived at 5 Meadows View, St Pauls Cray. Lives with her parents at 27 yrs old stating 1 year been married. No husband there though...

She was in Bromley Workhouse and also put her children in there.

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:26

I have contacted Bromley Library and searched on the usual websites aswell as a few of other people who are tracing her....

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 22:29

No middle initial on here.

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
COPPARD Frederick Henry Bromley 2a 1205
WEEDEN Ethel Bromley 2a 1205

Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2012 22:30

Have you found any record of a death for the husband?

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:34

Yes thank you that is the correct marriage.

Frederick Henry Coppard I have died A/M/J 1968 Bexley, Kent.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2012 22:35

1891 England Census about Ethel Weeden
Name: Ethel Weeden
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Weeden
Mother's Name: Mary Weeden
Gender: Female
Where born: St Mary Cray, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Mary Cray
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Cray
Town: St Mary Cray
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 633
Folio: 103
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Weeden 36
Mary Weeden 30
Joseph Weeden 18
Mercy Weeden 16
Ettie Weeden 14
Ethel Weeden 12
Daniel Weeden 10
James Weeden 3

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:36

Yes thank you I do have information till after 1911...... She seems to be in and then out of the workhouse.

I don't seem to be able to gain information about the workhouse on the dates after 1911????

Thank you.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 20 Aug 2012 22:37

??

Deaths Jun 1948

Coppard Frederick H 62 Cuckfield 5h 158

Deaths Mar 1955

COPPARD Frederick H 61 Folkestone 5b 684


Roy

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:38

You see I have also found that some of her DOB's alter???

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2012 22:38

Name: Ethel Coppard
[Ethel Weeden]
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Mary Cray, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Pauls Cray
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Meadow View, St Pauls Cray, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Bromley
Registration District Number: 42
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 280
Piece: 3717
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Weeden 66
Ethel Coppard 27
Daniel Richard Weeden 24
Arthur Edward Weeden 21
Horace Edward Weeden 15
Voliet Horance Weeden 10


No evidence to support the idea that she had a second forename

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2012 22:40

1901

Name: Joseph Weeden
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Weeden
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil parish: St Pauls Cray
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauline
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 694
Folio: 159
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Weeden 57
Mary Weeden 47
Etta Weeden 21
Daniel Weeden 14
Arthur Weeden 12
Ethel Weeden 16
Horace Weeden 5
Violet Weeden 7 Weeks

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:41

I think it has her middle name as Harriet on my grandad's papers?? He had an adoption paper......

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 22:41

Best I can see, though age a bit out:

Name: Ethel Coppard
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1030

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 22:42

This is the birth for Ethel Harriet:

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
Weeden Ethel Harriet Bromley 2a __7

Was she married when she had your grandfather?

Jan

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:44

Yes I think that may be the wrong one!

Thank you for your help.

Janene

Janene Report 20 Aug 2012 22:47

Yes she was.

But she did have a few boys that died and I think she may have had a boy Horace Weeden 1905 before married....

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Aug 2012 22:50

Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Su... J 77/1816/6611
Divorce Court File: 6611. Appellant: Frederick Henry Coppard. Respondent: Ethel Coppard. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd]. . Divorce Court File: 6611. Appellant: Frederick Henry Coppard. Respondent: Ethel Coppard.
Date: 1921

(from below link)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Chris :)