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Don't think it will be a lot of use, just tried to find George & May's birth but no luck.

what makes you think frances was illegitimate patchem?

thank you flip that would be great

http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/availablechurchandbu.html

Parish records, but I haven't tried to check them yet.

Looking at the bmd, this could be the parents:

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Screaton George Alfred Barrow S. 7a 173

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Screaton May Passingham Barrow S. 7a 172


But I'm not sure about that tree. I have a link to Barrow upon Soar parish records, I'll try to find it & post up.

I assumed that Frances and Rose were illegitimate as they had no separate Father's name (Rose just popped up on a quick search)

yes ive come across this but it had father as unknow and i wondered why the children had there mothers name,do you know of any reasons why this would be?

According to the tree the parents are George Alfred Screaton (b1886) and May Passingham Screaton (1900 - 1978) but I can't find a marriage for them. And the births of the children give mmn as Screaton??

i have a sourse which has,violet,marie,beatrice,kathleen,george,and frances. thank you flip x

Sorry, but no Rose or Harold - but the living siblings are hidden.

There's Violet 1920 - 2003, Beatrice 1924 - 2010 and George Alfred 1932 - 2001.

yes i know of the 3 daughters to widdowson,i just wondered if the rumours of her re-marry and having more children were true and its appears to be.

Was there a Rose on the sibling list? and a harold?

thanks flip x

A tree on ancestry confirms that dob and death. It shows 6 siblings for Frances, 3 of which have died by now.

Births from the second marriage should show Screaton as the maiden name. Looks like she had 3 daughters to Widdowson between 1956 & 1959.

patchem-yes i have tried to contact a few people on genes to see if they are close relatives,im just waiting on some replys.

Kay thank you yes that makes sense thank you x

thank you patchem just seen you found her death entry,her daughters believed she was 39 at her death so that is very likely her x

Hi Isobel.

Not in this instance as when she re-married Widdowson was her actual surname, after divorce many women revert back to their maiden name and if Frances had done it would have shown as Frances Screaton.married Mr K Jones.

Her headstone just shows she was initially Frances Screaton.

Hope this clears that bit up for you.

There looks to be a Jones/Screaton birth in 1968.

Will pm it.

Have you contacted anyone else on genes who has Frances in their trees?

that death from patchem ties in with her birth

Birth Record Name Frances Screaton
Year of Registration 1935
Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Melton Mowbray
Registration County Leicestershire
Mother's maiden name Screaton
Volume Number 7A
Volume Page 441



well done patchem good work :-)

sorry her maiden name*

if she had children in the second marriage would they be linked to help maiden name (screaton( or now married name (jones or her first married name (widdowson).?

oh that explains why i couldnt find anothe possible marriage x

No, most people have the second marriage using their current first married surname, not maiden name.