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Trying to find my Nan Minnie Hodgkinson's mum

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Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 13 Aug 2012 09:44

There are only 3 Charles Hodgkinsons born 1866 +/- 2 years on the 1881. There are only two on the 1891.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 13 Aug 2012 09:43

1881 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Lord Street
Parish Chorley
District Chorley, Chorley
Administrative County Lancashire

Householder 1
Name Thomas Hodkinson
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Insurance Agent
Birth Place Whittle
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 2
Name Ellen Hodkinson
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Tyldsley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 3
Name Samuel Hodkinson
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1866
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Drapers Apprentice
Birth Place Chorley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 4
Name Charles Hodkinson
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1866
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Picture Frame Maker (C & G)
Birth Place Chorley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 5
Name James Hodkinson
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Assistant Warehouse Man In A Cotton Mill
Birth Place Chorley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 6
Name Wilfrid Hodkinson
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Chorley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 7
Name Ada A Hodkinson
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Hindley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 8
Name Adelina Mary Hodkinson
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1875
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Hindley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 9
Name Annie Hodkinson
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Hindley
Birth County Lancashire

Householder 10
Name Ellen Hodkinson
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hindley
Birth County Lancashire



same family as given in 1871 for possible father charles

Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 13 Aug 2012 09:38

And the 1881
Charles Hodkinson
[Charles Hodgkinson]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Hodkinson
Mother's Name: Ellen Hodkinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Lord St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Picture Frame Maker (C & G)
Registration district: Chorley


Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hodkinson 41
Ellen Hodkinson 39
Samuel Hodkinson 15
Charles Hodkinson 15
James Hodkinson 14
Wilfrid Hodkinson 10
Ada A. Hodkinson 8
Adelina Mary Hodkinson 6
Annie Hodkinson 3
Ellen Hodkinson 1

It might not help much but it does narrow down the time he left for the US

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 09:10

I think that this is young Charles in 1911

Name: Charles Hodgkinson
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Birth Place: South America
Civil parish: Darwen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Bull Hill Farm Darwen
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Cow Man On Farm
Registration district: Blackburn
Registration District Number: 474
Sub-registration district: Darwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 25160
Household Members:
Name Age
William Albert Holden 30
Rosetta Holden 30
Betsy Alice Holden 3
Florrie Holden 1
Charles Hodgkinson 18

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:39

No I said that it's the wrong Charles.

In the 1911 census for Margaret (widowed) she has completed the married/children bit and then it is crossed out. Years completed for marriage are 3 which suggests that he died in 1902

Jude

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Aug 2012 08:28

Charles Jesse Hodgkinson who died in 1907 left his monies to Widow Clara Ellen Hodgkinson....... I don't think that is the right death for this Charles?? :-D

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:27

OK I think we can rule out the Tettenhall Charles as he had children late 80's early 90's with Ellen (from the 1887 marriage).

So now need to try and find Charles in 1901

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:21

Yeah I saw this one. If it is though it's not the same one as the death in 1907

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Aug 2012 08:14

Wonder if this is the father Charles when young??





1871 England Census
about Charles Hodgkinson

Name: Charles Hodgkinson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son

Father's Name: Thomas Hodgkinson

Mother's Name: Ellen Hodgkinson

Gender: Male

Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley


Thomas Hodgkinson 31
Ellen Hodgkinson 29

Samuel Hodgkinson 5
Charles Hodgkinson 5
James Hodgkinson 4
Thomas Hodgkinson 2
Wilfred Hodgkinson 8 Months
Joseph Taylor 59
Annia Foster 11


HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:06

Deaths of sons

death date: 01 Sep 1960
death place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
name: Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson
gender: Male
age: 68y
birth date: 05 Aug 1892
birthplace: Maryland, United States
marital status: Married
spouse: Blodwin Perkins
father: Charles Hodgkinson
digital folder number: 4437632
british columbia archives film number: B13248
registration number: 60 09 010669

death date: 13 Mar 1973
death place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
name: Victor Llewellyn Hodgkinson
gender: Male
age: 52y
birth date: 16 Apr 1920
birthplace: Calgary, Alberta
marital status: Married
spouse: Margaret Lavanchea Smith
father: Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson
mother: Blodwyn Perkins
digital folder number: 4479331
british columbia archives film number: B13323
registration number: 73-09-004161

So Blodwyn a Perkins

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:03

Is this Charles junior arriving in Canada

Name: Charles Hodgkinson
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Date of Arrival: 27 Jul 1912
Vessel: Virginian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Virginian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4789

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 07:50

Choccy - I didn't refresh before I posted - but we got to same place :-)

Deleted tettenhall details - not correct Charles

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 07:39

This is Margaret in 1901

Name: Margaret A Hodgkinson
[Margaret A Wilkinson]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen Wilkinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 3935
Folio: 59
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Wilkinson 61
Ann Garstang 51
Thomas Garstang 27
Theresa Garstang 20
Margaret A Hodgkinson 36

It is mistranscribed...Ellen Wilkinson and Ann Garstang are next door. Missing from transcript is Ann Kirfoot

Then in 1911 she is widowed
Name: Margaret Ann Hodgkinson
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chorley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 34 Preston Road, Chorley
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Weaver
Registration district: Chorley
Registration District Number: 475
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 25200
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Ann Hodgkinson 46
Annie Kirfoot 16

This is the only death that fits

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
Hodgkinson Charles Jesse 42 Ashton 8d 357

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Aug 2012 07:27



1901

RG number RG13
Piece: 3935
Folio: 59
Page: 22
Reg. District: Chorley
Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Chorley
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 50, Preston Road, Chorley
County: Lancashire


KIRFOOT, Ann Head Widow F 57 1844 Confectioner Shopkeeper
Whittle, Lancashire
KIRFOOT, Thomas Son Single M 27 1874 Overlooker (Cotton Mill)
Chorley, Lancashire
KIRFOOT, Theresa Daughter Single F 20 1881 Cotton Winder
Chorley, Lancashire
HODGKINSON, Margaret A Daughter Married F 36 1865 Cotton Weaver
Chorley, Lancashire

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Aug 2012 07:22


looks like father Charles has died -

1911

Reg. District: Chorley
Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Chorley
Enum. District: 1
Address: 34 Preston Road Chorley
County: Lancashire


HODGKINSON, Margaret Ann Head Widow F 46 1865 Weaver Chorley Lancs
KIRFOOT, Annie Niece Single F 16 1895 Weaver Chorley Lancs


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Aug 2012 07:07

so Minnie and Charles were put into one place some time before the 1901 census, and Mary Alice was put into another home for orphans.


I wonder why???



what happened to father Charles and his new wife?

Is it a case of new wife not wanting any step children, or did Charles die??




sylvia

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Aug 2012 03:16

You can view Charles's CEF attestations via a search at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-5C7C157/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths
Vital Event Death Registration
Name: Blodwyn Hodgkinson
Event Date: 1977 8 6 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 80
Gender: female
Event Place: Vancouver
Reg. Number: 1977-09-011432
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13578
GSU Microfilm Number: 2050949

Vital Event Death Registration
Name: Charles W Hodgkinson
Event Date: 1960 9 1 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 67
Gender: male
Event Place: Vancouver
Reg. Number: 1960-09-010669
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13248
GSU Microfilm Number: 2033346

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Aug 2012 01:06

Don't know if this is your guy, but...
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HODGKINSON Charles KIRFOOT Margaret Ann Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RO/29/154

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Aug 2012 19:41

Had hoped to find children with a maternal grandparent in 1901, sadly not:

1901 census transcription details for: Chorley Union Workshouse, Eaves Lane Chorley

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3938 Folio: 129 Page: 3
Reg. District: Chorley
Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Chorley
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: St George

Address: Chorley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HODGKINSON, Charles Wilfrid Pauper Inmate M 8 1893 Attending School America British U S A
HODGKINSON, Minnie Alvina Pauper Inmate F 3 1898 America British

EDIT: Oops - I see this was in the opening post.

Barbara

Barbara Report 12 Aug 2012 19:41



Name:

Mary A Hodgkinson
Age:
10
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1891
Gender:
Female
Where born:
United States
Civil parish:
Whittle
Ecclesiastical parish:
St John
Town:
Whittle le Woods
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Street Address: Home for Orphans
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district:
Chorley
Sub-registration district:
Leyland
ED, institution, or vessel:
10
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household schedule number:
84
Piece:
3932
Folio:
46
Page Number:
13
Household Members:
Name
Age
Ada Alice Dean>>>>>>Matron
26
Susan Griffith
15
Mary A Hodgkinson
10
Isabel Olkam
10
Amelia Pilkinson
9
Jessie Drake
8
Maude Drake
6
Sarah A Chatwyn
5