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Via Family Search we have found that 'our' DVHR had at least two younger sisters:

KATHLEEN SYBIL HARMAN RAMSAY, born 1902
and
AVIS MAUD HARMAN RAMSAY, born 1904.

However, we know nothing about them and would be VERY grateful if someone could see if they can find possible marriage/s, offspring, etc.

THANK YOU!

born where? UK, Somewhere else?

Have you looked on FreeBMD?

EDIT FreeBMD wont help !! looked on Family Search !

name: Kathleen Sybil Harman Ramsay
event: Birth
event date: 12 May 1902
event place: Kingston, Jamaica
gender: Female
father: Walter Ernest Ramsay
mother: Pearl Irene Hall Ramsay
reference number: 3745
page:
film number: 821462
digital folder number: 4519706
image number: 01129
Source Citation

Name:

Avis Maud Harman Ramsay


Event:Birth
Event Date:29 Jan 1904
Event Place:St. Catherine, Jamaica <<<<<<<<<
Gender:Female
Father:Walter Ernest Ramsay
Mother:Pearl Irene Hall

Reference Number:7476
Page:
Film Number:
1389612
Digital Folder Number:

4519925
Image Number:

00491

Ditto Violet
Kathleen was born there too

Doris was also born in Jamaica
name: Doris Violet Harman Ramsay
event: Birth
event date: 12 Apr 1900
event place: Kingston, Jamaica
gender: Female
father: Walter Ernest Ramsay
mother: Pearl Irene Hall
reference number:
page:
film number: 0821460
digital folder number: 4492571
image number: 01370
Source Citation

See also:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1207062?d=desc

Edit: Noticed it's backwards, click on post date.

Thank you all. Yes, the three sisters were all born in Jamaica to a Scottish banana plantation owner and his wife.

Can anyone see any details for the two younger sisters, please?

Thank you.

I can see a possible marriage of Kathleen Sybil Harman Ramsay to a Mr. Marshall in NY.

I haven't got Ancestry worldwide, though. PLEASE can someone have a look for me?

And is there any sign of the other sister Avis?

1930 United States Federal Census about Kathleen S Marshall
Name: Kathleen S Marshall
[Kathleen S Marchell]
[Kathleen S Ramsay]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: British West Indies
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hempstead, Nassau, New York
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1924
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Wilmot N Marshall
Father's Birthplace: British West Indies
Mother's Name: Pearl J Ramsay
Mother's Birthplace: British West Indies
Wilmot N Marshall 33
Kathleen S Marshall 27
Neilson E Marshall 6
Wilmot L Marshall 3
[3 11/12]
Pearl J Ramsay 50
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Hempstead, Nassau, New York; Roll: 1459; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 100; Image: 1016.0; FHL microfilm: 2341194.

1940 United States Federal Census about Katheline S Marshall
Name: Katheline S Marshall
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Jamaica, British West Indies
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Hempstead, Nassau, New York
View Map
Street: Buston Street
House Number: 106
Inferred Residence in 1935: Hempstead, Nassau, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 64B
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Willot Marshall 43 Jamaica, British West Indies, civil engineer in road construction
Katheline S Marshall 38
Neilson Marshall 16 Jamaica, British West Indies
Lyle Marshall 13 b New york
Pearl Ramsey 60 Jamaica, British West Indies

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about Neilson E Marshall
Name: Neilson E Marshall
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1923
Address: 2057 Robb Rd, Walnut Creek, CA, 94596-6245
[11101 Ringtail Rd, Penn Valley, CA, 95946-9490 (1993)]
[13506 Lake Wildwood Dr, Penn Valley, CA, 95946-9500 (1993)]


U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 about Neilson E Marshall
Name: Neilson E Marshall
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1923
Address: 13506 Lake Wildwd Dr, Penn Valley, CA, 95946



New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Wilson E Marshall
Name: Wilson E Marshall
[Neilson E Marshall]
Arrival Date: 18 Oct 1926
Birth Year: abt 1923
Birth Location: Jamaica
Birth Location Other: spanishtown
Age: 3
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: White
Port of Departure: Kingston, Jamaica
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Yoro
Search Ship Database: Search the Yoro in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


Travelling with Kathleen S H, 24 and 31 year old Wilmot W D, an engineer. They were on a temporary visa of not more than 6 months.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Pearl Ramsay
Name: Pearl Ramsay
Gender: Female
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birth Country: Jamaica
Date of Arrival: 29 Sep 1927
Vessel: Canadian Fisher
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canadian Fisher' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Bermuda
Roll: T-14910

Born in Clarendon, Jamaica, she was widowed and going to son in law W N Marshall in 372 AA College Street, Toronto, Ontario. She had a daughter Mrs Herbey, Verleys Lorne, Gregory Park, Jamaica. Robert has been written beside the name Herbey.


EDIT Reading your other post I assume that this is Doris Hervey, not Herbey.

OMG, just managed to get back to this.

This is indeed wonderful findings. The daughter which Alviegal writes about at the bottom of her post is in fact our Mrs. Doris HERVEY, whose husband was the Robert Hervey we've been writing about. Robert is my great uncle, Doris his first wife.

Are there any findings for the possible marriages of the Marshall boys, please?

And a possible death for Kathleen Sybil Harman MARSHALL?

We are very keen to track these family members down.

Thank you, thank you to you all and Patchem too. You are a wonderful team and I am always so grateful for your help.

Now, can anyone see what might have happened to Avis the other sister please?

Thank you a million again. I will be away for most of the weekend, so please don't think me rude if I don't get back to this for a couple of days.

Have a look at this. After googling Neilson Marshall, not a common name, a few sites came up with him donating to a charity with Myrna.
I will post this link as it names him but not Myrna. It is in Penn Valley which is named in the U S Public records indexes above. He is on page 8.

http://www.hospiceofthefoothills.org/documents/P_community_report_11.pdf

http://www.psr.edu/files_psr/HonorRollFINAL20092010.pdf

Maybe it's not your man, but it is a coincidence.

That's him,Liz. Just read their marriage announcement in Newsday Historical Newspapers.

Not sure if I should put this here???
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/o/r/Joel-Tormoen-AZ/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0213.html

Maureen

Magnify 4 clicks, then save image
http://archive.org/stream/newyorkcensus00reel1459#page/n1015/mode/1up
[addy=4 Flint St Hempstead (presumably now Flint Ave) - all 3 adults say they have filed naturalization papers (col 23=Pa) - the first step in naturalization - the second step is a hearing that determines if naturalization will be granted]

Well done with the marriage. I was hoping someone would come through from the US.
Can find absolutely nothing on Avis though. Kathleen's death and Wilmot Lyle's later life are also proving difficult.

Liz

One of those "doh" moments...just realised that Lyle should actually be Lysle! He seems to go by W Lysle. A good google puts him in Greenport,Long Island,NY-still going strong!

I really don't like delving into living people territory.

Maureen

Oh, how amazing you all are!

Doesn't it just help when folk have 'unusual' names? Makes delving so much easier, doesn't it?

I do see what you mean about living people - we hadn't even considered that we would find all this.

I can hardly believe that four weeks ago, we were holidaying very near to Greenport, Long Island and he and his family were just across the water. And the descendants of our Doris still live in Pennsylvania and upstate NY. Extraordinary. We never knew.

PLEASE keep trying with Avis - again, not a common name and hopefully she will pop up eventually.

Will be back to this in little bursts because going away soon for 48 hours.

THANK YOU.
:-D <3

I'm not sure whether to put this extra ask on this thread or to open up another one? We're now searching for the death details of DORIS VIOLET HARMAN HERVEY and I think that these are the details below.
However, I don't have ancestry worldwide and I would be so grateful please if someone could reveal the bits that I can't see!
Name
Doris V Hervey
Mother
given name surname
Father
given name surname
Birth
dd/mm/year location
Death
dd/mm/1948 city Allegheny Pennsylvania USA

BIG THANK YOU.