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♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥
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23 Jul 2012 14:04 |
I am trying to find my great uncle's death which I think was in Buffalo, NY but not sure of when.
Harry Edward Bird Born 1/4/1902 Cherry Burton, East Yorkshire, England Death, I think in the 1960's or 1970's
Can anyone find it please? Dee
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MaureeninNY
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23 Jul 2012 14:32 |
??? Social Security Death Index about Harry Bird Name: Harry Bird SSN: 097-30-7734 Last Residence: 953 (U.S. Consulate), Canada Born: 4 Jan 1902 Died: Jun 1976 State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1954-1956) Source Citation: Number: 097-30-7734; Issue State: New York; Issue Date: 1954-1956.
Maureen
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23 Jul 2012 14:45 |
Thank you Maureen No wonder I couldn't find him - was told he emigrated to NY Thank you so much Dee
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23 Jul 2012 15:18 |
You're welcome,Dee.
That's a puzzling entry.
Maureen
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23 Jul 2012 16:21 |
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Harry BIRD Date of departure: 28 April 1955 Port of departure: Southampton Destination port: New York Destination country: USA
Date of Birth: 4 January 1902 Age: 53 Marital Status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Railway Employee Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 21 of 30 Ship: QUEEN ELIZABETH Official Number: Master's name: C Ivan Thayson Steamship Line: Where bound: New York, USA Address in UK:6 Algernon St Monton Eccles .... So did he move to Canada and die before becoming a naturalised Canadian??
Who was his wife??
Maureen
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23 Jul 2012 16:26 |
Mo
There is a marriage in Ca to a Violet Luc* Owers
Dont know if its him?
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23 Jul 2012 16:27 |
Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928 about Harry Bird Name: Harry Bird Birth Place: England Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905 Father Name: Willie Bird Mother Name: Eliza Elizabeth Barrows Bird Spouse Name: Violet Lucille Owers Spouse's Age: 18 Spouse Birth Place: Toronto, Ontario Spouse Father Name: George Owers Spouse Mother Name: Caroline Chadwell Marriage Date: 26 Jun 1926 Marriage County or District: York
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23 Jul 2012 16:35 |
Dee
Is this him in 1911?
1911 England Census about Harry Bird Name: Harry Bird Age in 1911: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Cherry Burton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Cherry Burton County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street Address: Cherry Burton Registration district: Beverley Registration District Number: 520 Sub-registration district: Beverley ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 28562 Household Members: Name Age John Bird 66 Emily Alice Bird 22 Gladys Lydia Bird 9 Harry Bird 9 Wilfrid Bernard Bird
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MaureeninNY
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23 Jul 2012 16:54 |
Thanks for looking with me,Gins!
I have no clue on this one.
Going off to the kitchen again.
Moxx
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23 Jul 2012 17:15 |
What are you doing in the kitchen Mo.....pretending to cook?
Marriages Jun 1895 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barrows Eliza Elizabeth Leicester 7a 424 BIRD Willie Leicester 7a 424
Come back Dee :-D
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23 Jul 2012 17:53 |
Zucchini season,Gins. I may be pretending but the knife is real. ;-)
We do need more input from Dee.
Maureen
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23 Jul 2012 18:10 |
You mean, courgette....speak ENGILISH ;-)
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23 Jul 2012 18:22 |
Cucurbita pepo
:-D :-D :-D
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23 Jul 2012 19:35 |
I had to Google that......a member of the same family
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♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥
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23 Jul 2012 19:51 |
Maureen & Gins Sorry I have been away for a while, posted at work this afternoon then it got busy. Got home, walked dog, now I'm Back That is Harry in 1911 census The marriage is wrong - wrong parents. Thanks for the passenger details, that is definately him as he was born a twin 4th Jan 1902 in Cherry Burton, Yorks. Was he travelling alone? there are family rumours that he left his wife behind and went to join one of his daughters out there. He was married to Ivy Dunwell in Beverley June 1/4 1923. He had 7 daughters but not sure which one it was that he joined, but another joined him later. Their names were Dorothy, Rose, Marion, Joan, Sylvia, Maureen, & Christine. He was my grandfather's brother and my mum said he went to Canada but that is all I know. He had two sons too. Clifford and Lawrence. My mum mentioned that he could have re-married to someone called Annie, but I don't have any details, presumably he divorced Ivy unless Annie was his common law wife??? I was hoping to track him down, I know he visited Yorkshire in the 1960's because I have a photograph of him with my grandparents - and the women mum called Annie. Apparently, he used to send post cards from Canada to my mum's cousin when she was a little girl, but he would write them backwards for fun.
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23 Jul 2012 20:23 |
Now now Dee..............you need to leave buddy spaces, paragraphs in your reply!
There are trees, all over the place, with his details and different parents!
Do you have the certificates?
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♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥
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23 Jul 2012 20:34 |
No sorry, no certs.
Have received most of the info from elderly cousins of Harry (and what mum remembered years ago).
The only other info I have was that he may have married again (to Annie ?) around 1968.
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23 Jul 2012 21:00 |
Naughty Dee!
Get some certs please :-D
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23 Jul 2012 21:59 |
Well...yes,he seemed to be traveling alone in 1955.
Gosh-7 daughters and 2 sons?
Sorry-I can't see anything more. It's a little recent for Canadian records.
Maureen
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23 Jul 2012 22:28 |
Not naughty in this case Gins. I am 100% sure of his relationship to my family. He was one of the reasons I got into doing my family tree. I was trying to find out how many twins run in the family. I have twins. I am a twin. my grandparents (his brother) had two sets of twins and I knew Harry Edward was a twin to Gladys Lydia. In fact their parents had another set of twins too!
Harry and my grandfather Samuel John were two of 12 children and I am in contact with various "cousins" and their families. Unfortunately, the one line I do not have any contact for, is his. It seems that they lost contact with them when Harry went to Canada. I think because he left his wife behind, they disowned his family too. I think all the children fell out over it too. Shame really.
I organised a family reunion in Yorkshire a few years back and his line was the only one who didn't have a representative there because I couldn't find them all. It seems his children have moved all over the place and I know a few emigrated to be with him at a later point.
Maureen. The large families continue throughout the Bird family, but I have traced most of them and am trying to trace other lines from further back now too.
I don't have anything to gain by getting the certificates, except perhaps, a death cert which might tell me who registered his death, but expect that to be one of his daughters.
If he went to NY in 1955, he must have moved to Canada later on, I was hoping to find out when, how and where, but I guess you are right, it is a little too recent
I notice on the passenger list mentioned that he was a railway worker and was hoping to find something out about this, but have drawn a blank
I have got as many certificates or parish copies as I can, especially from my direct line, but as the families are so big, I have to be a bit selective now. My mum was one of 10, my grandfather one of 12, His father was one of 11 and his father one of 8. All went on to have big families too!
If either of you two ladies can find a crossing from NY to Canada, I would be very grateful. Any crossings for his children would be nice too.Thanks. Regards Dee
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