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HALL family of Coolderry, Ballinasloe.

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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2012 18:52

Got back to marriage of Patrick Hall and Marie Tully...Edann's dates are wrong...

Married St Peters Athlone 1831 which would account for first child recorded Baptism..Foster Hall 1832




GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Jul 2012 18:35

I cannot believe that there were 2 men called Foster Hall and BOTH had wives called Mary Cullen!
I can only assume that one or both of the Irish born children died.
I am looking for deaths, both in Ireland and in Australia but it is the preverbial needle in a haystack.
Loads of possible deaths but no parents names. Grrr

My reckoning is that Foster was 68yrs old at time of death, uless he was more than a year old when he was baptized.... not likely.

( My dad's headstone says he died aged 72 but he was only 71, just shows that my family can't count either!)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2012 18:21

Anne...You have done wonders...what do you suppose is the probability of 2 "Foster" Halls' married to 2 Marie Cullens with the same named children is..?
Do wish Edann would get back to add some comment....!!
I dont have other than basic and old "collected Irish data" to use so lots of it from my end is pure detective work....

George is proving elusive at the moment....

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Jul 2012 16:53

The only travel that I can find for anyone called Foster Hall is this:
Internal sailing from Brisbane to Sydney
There were only 3 people in this party. Foster, Patrick and Mary
No other info.

All Immigration & Travel ResultsNew South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
about Foster Hall
Name: Foster Hall
Port of Departure: Brisbane
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 18 Jan 1867
Vessel Name: City Of Brisbane

Anne


GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Jul 2012 16:37

Found this
Parents names correspond to Foster Hall s/o Patrick Hall and Mary Tully
This man died on 6 Jun 1899 aged 69.
This makes his approx year of birth 1830/1.
His daughter Mary placed a memorium in The Sydney Morning Herald on his 1st anniversary.
If this is the correct man, then he has moved again. This time to NSW??
Foster Hall that Edann is looking for was baptised in Feb 1832.


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Foster Hall
Name: Foster Hall
Death Date: 1899
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Patrick
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Place: Narrandera, New South Wales
Registration number: 6505


Edit:
Forgive my stupidity but only just realised that daughter Mary married in NSW, which accounts for her father's death in NSW
Anne

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2012 15:32

Anne...I am still not sure as there was a Patrick b 1858 and Marie 1860 Reg. Roscommon...However these children may have died and further same names applied to subsequent children later...The Christian name of the father .."Foster" is suspect and I would be inclined to think the Birth (listed above ) for Marie 1883 as James "Foster" Hall is more likely..!
An Immigration Passenger List to Aus.is needed ....

Edann...Just in case you havent this info.

Have found the following for Thomas and Jane Kelly.

Thomas Hall married Jane Kelly ( daughter of John Kelly) on 8th October 1865.Reg Ballinasloe
Dont know if they married in Moore RC Chapel (Most likely) ... Jane was from Moore...(abt 2mls from Ballin.on the road to Athlone...

Have found ? some of their children....

Jane .b 1868 Creagh
Theresa b 1870
Cath.b.1873
Eliz. b. 1875......There is a marriage of an Eliz. same birth date b Ire. (same parents names) to an Andrew Cunningham 11 July 1905 Boston.
Are these names familiar to you..?

Do you know if Thomas emigrated after death of Sarah Foley...?

I think this is probably Jane Kelly's parents and a brother...1901 Census

Residents of a house 8 in Moore North (Moore, Roscommon)

Kelly John 75 Male Head of Family R Catholic Co Roscommon Farmer Cannot read - Married Rheumatism
Kelly Anne 62 Female Wife R Catholic Co Roscommon - Read and write - Married -
Kelly John 27 Male Son R Catholic Not married.

1911 shows John jnr. at No 7 married to Brid.and with a young family....both parents appear to have died.



GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Jul 2012 14:53

WOW!
Looks like Eringobragh is spot on!
Just 2 Irish births followed by these. All in Australia, including a second child named Mary. I guess the first died in infacy?
This family must have moved from Ireland to Queensland, then onto Victoria... which corresponds with info on the marriage of daughter Mary (2)

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Catherine Hall
Name: Catherine Hall
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1864
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mary Cullen
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 5925
Registration number: 000658

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Thomas Hall
Name: Thomas Hall
Birth Date: 15 May 1866
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mary Cullen
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 5950
Registration number: 001220

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Mary Anne Hall
Name: Mary Anne Hall
Birth Date: 28 Apr 1868
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mary Cullen
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 5945
Registration number: 000591

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Patrick Hall
Name: Patrick Hall
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1870
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Maria Cullane
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 003325



Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about George Hall
Name: George Hall
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mary Cullen
Birth Place: Benalla, Victoria
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 14258

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about James Hall
Name: James Hall
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mary Cullan
Birth Place: Dookie, Victoria
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 21762


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Ellen Maria Hall
Name: Ellen Maria Hall
Father's Name: James Foster Hall
Mother's name: Maria Cullan
Birth Place: Khul, Victoria
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 17613

Anne






Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2012 14:06

Marriage of Foster Hall and Marie...

Groom's Name: Foster Hall

Bride's Name: Maria Cullen
Marriage Date: 07 Mar 1857
Marriage Place: St. Peter'S Athlonen, Westmeath, Ireland

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2012 14:00

Edann....

Looks like Foster Hall and Mary Cullen may have emigrated....although the date of Maries birth is not corresponding...

Groom's Name: Martin Hogan
Groom's Birth Date: 1868
Groom's Birthplace: Dalysfor, Victoria
Groom's Age: 36
Bride's Name: Mary Hall
Bride's Birth Date: 1869
Bride's Birthplace: Ipswich, Queensland
Bride's Age: 35
Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1904
Marriage Place: Narrandera, New South Wales, Australia
Groom's Father's Name: Patrick Hogan
Groom's Mother's Name: Johannah Ryan
Bride's Father's Name: Foster Hall ***
Bride's Mother's Name: Maria Cullen *****

There is also another marriage for a Kate...(same parents names)...would need to look further at this but worth keeping until eliminated.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Jul 2012 12:32

Based on the bapt for these children, looks like Foster Hall possibly married Maria Cullen ?

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Patricius Hall
Name: Patricius Hall
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 18 Apr 1858
Baptism Place: Roman Catholic, St Peters Athlone and Drum, Roscommon, Ireland
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mariae Cullen
FHL Film Number: 989750

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Maria Hall
Name: Maria Hall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1860
Birth Place: Drum, Roscommon, Ireland
Father's Name: Foster Hall
Mother's name: Mariae Cullen
FHL Film Number: 989750

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2012 12:21

Edann
Just to clarify its

Foster
George
Patrick

You are particularly wanting to find info .on...?

Edann

Edann Report 10 Jul 2012 11:45

I am anxious to trace information on the family detaild below; particularly the brothers of 3rd son Thomas (C below)

Patritii Hall was born (date unknown).

Patritii Hall and Mariae Tully were married about 1831 in Roscommon, Ireland. Mariae Tully was born in Roscommon, Ireland. Patritii Hall and Mariae Tully had the following children:

A. Foster Hall was born circa 1832 in Roscommon, Ireland.1 He was baptized on 12 Feb 1832 in St. Peter's, Athlone and Drum, Roscommon, Ireland.

B. Georgeus Hall was born circa 1834 in Roscommon, Ireland.1 He was baptized in Ireland.

C. Thomas Hall was born on 1 Jun 1836 in Coolderry, Ballinasloe, Roscommon, Ireland. He was baptized after 1 Jun 1836 in Roscommon, Ireland.

D. Patritius Hall was born circa 1838 in Roscommon, Ireland. He was baptized on 26 Aug 1838 in St. Peter's, Athlone and Drum, Roscommon, Ireland.


Thomas Hall born 1838 (above) married:
Jane Kelly was born circa 1849 in Ireland. Thomas Hall and Jane Kelly had the following child:

1. Thomas Hall was born in 1878 in Ireland. He lived in 11 Communion St., Haslingden, Rossendale, Lancashire, UK on 2 Apr 1911.

Thomas Hall and Sarah Jane Foley were married on 20 Aug 1903 in St Joseph's R.C Church, Ramsbottom, Lancs, ENG. Sarah Jane Foley, daughter of John Foley and Julia , was born in Apr 1878 in Ramsbottom, Lancashire, England. She lived in Tottington Lower End, Lancashire, England in 1881. She lived in Tottington Lower End, Lancashire, England in 1891. Sarah lived in 11 Communion St., Haslingden, Rossendale, Lancashire, UK on 2 Apr 1911. She died on 19 May 1911 at the age of 33 in 11 Communion St., Haslingden, Rossendale, Lancashire, UK.