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Helix14
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8 Jul 2012 11:08 |
Dear Mike*,Sylvia,Astra, Reggie, Thank you all for your replies. I don't know how to remove that blessed tick from Mike*'s answer earlier, having misunderstood the purpose of the tick--still do. I see that I may have been working from the Birth Certificate of a different Jane Denton, in which case I must start again from the beginning, with the Ecclesfield Jane. "My" Jane Denton married Henry Albert lodge in 1865 and their son Albert, who is recorded on the reply from Mike* on the 1881 Census return, is my grandfather. Jane died in 1924.The family lived at Staincross, Barnsley.
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Helix14
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8 Jul 2012 10:35 |
Dear Mike*, Thank you for your reply about possibly the wrong Jane Denton. I am trying to find out how to remove the "Mark as answered" tick from your earlier reply, as it does not appear to be straightforward. I misunderstood the tick's function--still do. "My" Jane Denton lived till 1925, and she married Henry Albert Lodge in 1865; the 10year-old "Alb" at Staincross is my grandfather. If I have been working from the wrong birth Certificate, I need to start again from the beginning. Thank you for making me aware of this possibility. Helix 14.
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ErikaH
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8 Jul 2012 09:13 |
1861
Name: George Denton Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Denton Gender: Male Where born: Darton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Darton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 54 Piece: 3442 Folio: 57 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age George Denton 52 Mary Denton 50 Charles Denton 17 Eliza Denton 7 Henry White 17 Eliza White 15 Thomas White 12
The WHITE children are STEP-children
Hannah must have died, and George re-married
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ErikaH
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8 Jul 2012 09:11 |
This MAY be the marriage of George's parents.........
West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 about Martha Truelove Name: Martha Truelove Parish: Darton, All Saints Spouse's Name: George Denton
1841
Name: Martha Denton Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Darton Hundred: Staincross County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Ecclesfield Sub-registration district: Cawthorne Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1323 Book: 6 Folio: 9 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age George Denton 65 Martha Denton 55
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ErikaH
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8 Jul 2012 08:58 |
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1861
Name: Jane Denton Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Darton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Ashton under Lyne Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Ashton under Lyne County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration district: Ashton Town ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 11 Piece: 2983 Folio: 101 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age William Lee 37 Catherine Lee 39 Mary Lee 12 James Henry Lee 10 Amelia Lee 6 William Lee 4 Emily Augusta 1 Jane Denton 13
Name: Jane Danton Parish: Darton, All Saints Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1848 Father's Name: George Danton Mother's name: Hannah Danton
1851
Name: Jane Denton Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: F (Female) Where born: Darton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Darton Ecclesiastical parish: Monk Bretton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darton ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 2332 Folio: 92 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Martha Denton 69 George Denton 42....AG LAB Hannah Denton 38......born Clayton, Yorks William Denton 11 Martha Denton 9 Charles Denton 7 Jane Denton 3
Charles Denton Darton, All Saints 2 Jun 1844 George Denton, Hannah Denton
Eliza Denton Darton, All Saints 28 Sep 1856 George Denton, Hannah Denton
Martha Denton Darton, All Saints 3 Apr 1842 George Denton, Hannah Denton
Alfred Denton 19 Aug 1837 Darton, All Saints 5 Nov 1837 George Denton, Hannah Denton
William Denton 12 Nov 1839 Darton, All Saints 25 Dec 1839 George Denton, Hannah Denton
What is George's occupation on Jane's marriage cert?
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ErikaH
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8 Jul 2012 08:52 |
The correct Jane may not even have had her birth registered
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SylviaInCanada
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8 Jul 2012 00:52 |
Helix
please remove the tick from that posting by Mike
Your question has NOT been answered, but the tick is showing, and that identifies this thread as being complete.
Thus people will no longer open it.
Thank you
sylvia
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Mike *
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8 Jul 2012 00:48 |
My guess is that Jane's marriage cert to Mr Lodge states her father as George, and Helix has plumped for the wrong George. and bought the wrong birth cert for Jane.
The PM is still unopened
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Astra
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7 Jul 2012 19:41 |
The marriage to Henry Lodge in Barnsley in 1865 is the one I checked out earlier. It seems to meet all of the criteria. It's just that Helix is following the wrong Jane and it would be a shame for him to continue adding family to his tree which are incorrect. Good idea to send him a PM as he hasn't returned to the thread.
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Mike *
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7 Jul 2012 17:51 |
As this thread is marked as answered ... and I'm not at all confident about it , I've sent a PM asking for more info about Jane's marriage
I suspect this may be the marriage of Jane's parents
Marriages Jun 1842 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BASHFORTH John Ecclesfield 22 97 DENTON George - Ecclesfield 22 97 <<<<<< HAXBY Hannah - Ecclesfield 22 97 <<<<<<< HORNE Edward Ecclesfield 22 97 HOYLAND Mary Ecclesfield 22 97 NAYSON Elizabeth Ecclesfield 22 97 PARKER Catharine Ecclesfield 22 97 TOWNEND William Ecclesfield 22 97
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Mike *
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7 Jul 2012 14:40 |
Is this your Jane by any chance ?
Jane Lodge Age: 34 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1847 Birthplace: Darton, Yorkshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Marital Condition: Married Profession/Occupation: Address: Staincross Census Place: Darton, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Head Henry Lodge M 36 Emley, Yorkshire, England Wife Jane Lodge F 34 Darton, Yorkshire, England Son Alb Lodge M 10 Darton, Yorkshire, England Chas Lodge M 4 Darton, Yorkshire
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Mike *
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7 Jul 2012 14:32 |
This is likely to be the Jane born Ecclesfield ( which covers Darton and Barnsley)
Jane Denton Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Aug 1848 Baptism/Christening Place: Darton, York, England : Father's Name: George Denton Mother's Name: Hannah
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Mike *
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7 Jul 2012 14:25 |
There are 2 births for Jane Denton in Wakefield area
The Jane born to George and Martha must be the one that died which is why she's not on 1851 census.
Could your Jane be the one born Ecclesfield ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1847 DENTON Jane - Ecclesfield 22 142 DENTON Jane - Wakefield 22 654
which marriage is your Jane ?
Marriages Jun 1865 Denton Jane - Sunderland 10a 60_
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1865 Denton Jane - Islington 1b 436 Denton Jane - Barnsley 9c 256
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Astra
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7 Jul 2012 14:15 |
This is maybe why she isn't on the census!
Deaths Mar 1848 (>99%)
Denton Jane Wakefield 22 533
Who did your Jane marry?
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Helix14
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7 Jul 2012 14:04 |
Thank you, Mike*, I will try that next time I have the Brick Wall.
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Mike *
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7 Jul 2012 14:01 |
For pre 1837 registration look for parish records in www.familysearch.org
Not all parish records are included though
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Helix14
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7 Jul 2012 13:50 |
Thank you. Reggie, Glitterbaby and Mike. Your findings are very useful. I suppose Jane must have been missed off the 1851 Census, lost in the crowd of siblings? How did you find the pre-GRO data (for future reference) please? Many thanks. From Helix14.
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Mike *
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6 Jul 2012 22:54 |
The Banns were 9th march
Actual wedding 24th March
Groom's Name: George Denton : Bride's Name: Martha Day : Marriage Date: 24 Mar 1834 Marriage Place: Sandal Magna,York,England
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ErikaH
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6 Jul 2012 22:46 |
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Name: Sarah Denton Age: 8 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Walton Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Sandal Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1270 Book: 4 Folio: 9 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age George Denton 35 Martha Denton 30 Marya Hannah Denton 1**************** Image is 7 Elizabeth Denton 5 Ann Denton 2 Sarah Denton 8 Mo
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ErikaH
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6 Jul 2012 22:38 |
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Martha Day Name: Martha Day Marriage or Bann Date: 9 Mar 1834 Parish: Sandal Magna, St Helen Spouse's Name: George Denton
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