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Catherine
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29 Jun 2012 10:47 |
1891 for Jame Merrick:- Noted as Lodger Address:- 12 Sanquhar Street
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ErikaH
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29 Jun 2012 10:49 |
From GlosBMD - you need it in your favourites, Gillian, if you have relatives from the County
POOLE William Walter POOLE POOLE KIRBY 1864 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 10 6
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
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Gillian
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29 Jun 2012 10:58 |
Appreciate all your help guys........ All the above info has been very helpful - particularly the Hannah Kirby - Poole/Merrick info.
This shows a connection between Hannah Kirby and Ellen Nash. (1981 census)
I believe that Ellens maiden name was Kirby & that Hannah & Ellen were sisters .
I still cant find a marriage for Ellen Kirby or Ellen (any surname) to Charles Nash - we know that they were man & wife in the 1871 census aged 20 & 23. this is a puzzle. ( or at least they said they were married) If possible - I really need to be able to identify / confirm this ( without buying the cert).
I also know that in 1873 they had a daughter Anne & 1874 - they had a son called James Nash.
\Any ideas?
My main question
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Gillian
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29 Jun 2012 11:03 |
Thanks Reggie - will do
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Catherine
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29 Jun 2012 11:13 |
Couldn't find an early death for William Walter Poole that would fit with his age so checked census records and found this one:-
1901 England Censusabout William Walter Poole Name: William Walter Poole Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Gloucester Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 7 Millbrook Street
Occupation: Dairyman (milk) employer at home.
Condition as to marriage: M
Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: South Hamlet ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49 Piece: 2430 Folio: 47 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age William Walter Poole 35 xxxx Minnie Poole 17 - born: Hartpury, Gloucestershire xxxx George Davies 20 ............................................
Looks to be same family:-
1891 England Censusabout William Poole Name: William Poole Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Poole Gender: Male Where born: Bromsberrow Civil parish: South Hamlet Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Gloucester County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Theresa Street
Occupation: General Labourer
Condition as to marriage: Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: South Hamlet ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2016 Folio: 33 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age William Poole 26 Annie Poole 28 - born: Longney, Gloucestershire xxxx Minnie Poole 7 xxxx James Parker 21
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Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%) Clifford Sarah Ann Newent 6a 498 xxxx Hawkins Anna Newent 6a 498 xxxx xxxx Hawkins Annie Newent 6a 498 xxxx Mace Crescent Newent 6a 498 xxxx Poole William Walter Newent 6a 498 xxxx
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Catherine
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29 Jun 2012 11:27 |
Here's William in 1881 living with Hannah and Ellen's parents:-
1881 England Censusabout William Poole Name: William Poole Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Dymock County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Broms Berrow Heath Dymock
Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2528 Folio: 30 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age David Kurby 60 Ann Kurby 70 William Poole 16
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 Jun 2012 11:44 |
O well done Catherine !! So they did have a child before she married James.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 Jun 2012 12:04 |
??????
Might have been mistranscribed a bit!!
groom's name: William Wallis Poole bride's name: Anna Hawkins marriage date: 01 Nov 1883 marriage place: Hartpury,Gloucester,England indexing project (batch) number: M02902-4 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 991295
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 Jun 2012 12:08 |
Don't know if you want this??
James with his parents. Father Ag Lab.
1861 England Census about James Merrick Name: James Merrick Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Merrick Mother's name: Elizabeth Merrick Gender: Male Where born: Newent, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Newent Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:Little Ford House
Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Newent ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Piece: 1759 Folio: 53 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age James Merrick 30 Elizabeth Merrick 32 James Merrick 11 Anne Merrick 4 Elizabeth Merrick 2
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 Jun 2012 12:14 |
parents: David Kirby,? Ann name: Hannah Kirby gender: Female baptism/christening date: 16 Jul 1843 **************** baptism/christening place: DYMOCK,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: David Kirby mother's name: Ann indexing project (batch) number: P01663-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0091519-521, 0824375
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 Jun 2012 12:21 |
Hannah's marriage to James Merrick Christmas Day.
groom's name: James Merrick bride's name: Hannah Poole marriage date: 25 Dec 1869 marriage place: Dymock,Gloucester,England indexing project (batch) number: M01663-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0824375 IT 3, 91519, 91520, 91521
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ErikaH
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29 Jun 2012 12:28 |
Saying they were 'married' is no proof that they ever troubled the vicar
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ErikaH
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29 Jun 2012 12:33 |
Where does this come from????
sorry Reggie - I have just re-read your message above and note Charles Nash - Kirby marriage Colesford 1876 Thanks - Gill
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Catherine
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29 Jun 2012 12:44 |
Thank you Mel, but you found the birth, I just wanted to see what happened to the poor lad, as he doesn't show with his mother on any of the other census records.............. ........................I suppose that's what you call team work. :-)
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Gillian
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29 Jun 2012 12:49 |
Reggie - are you saying that Anne here is Hannah? and what does Relationship W;D mean please? also - William Trehern - what is his relationship?
Thanks - Gill
1851 Name: Ann Cirby [Ann Kirby] Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: W;D Gender: F (Female) Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Dymock County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Newent ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 1960 Folio: 299 Page Number: 38 Household Members: Name Age William Trehern 29 David Cirby 30 Ann Cirby 41 Emma Cirby 10 Ann Cirby 7 Harriett Cirby 5 Edwin Cirby 3 No street address They were in the Hamlet of Bromesberrow East Both parents were Ag Labs
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ErikaH
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29 Jun 2012 12:56 |
Yes - Ann is Hannah -
William Trehern is the Householder
The Kirby family are Lodgers
David and Ann are the parents - the children are their children.
'W D' is a mistrans by Ancestry
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Gillian
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29 Jun 2012 13:03 |
ok - thats great
thank you so much for all your help everyone
Gill
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ErikaH
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29 Jun 2012 13:07 |
Please answer my question timed at 12:33
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 Jun 2012 14:09 |
Ellen's baptism. Father transcribed as Davis Kirby.
name: Ellen Kirby gender: Female baptism/christening date: 28 Aug 1853 baptism/christening place: DYMOCK,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Davis Kirby mother's name: Ann indexing project (batch) number: P01663-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0091519-521, 0824375
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Gillian
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29 Jun 2012 14:11 |
Hi Reggie
Your Question....... " Where does this come from???? " "sorry Reggie - I have just re-read your message above and note Charles Nash - Kirby marriage Colesford 1876 Thanks - Gill"
refering to this earlier posting by you ( I dint quite understand it - so went back to read it again...)
"From GlosBMD - confirming MMN
NASH Ann NASH NASH KIRBY 1873 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 29 395 NASH Charles Edward NASH NASH KIRBY 1876 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 34 58 NASH James NASH NASH KIRBY 1874 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 31 83 NASH William John NASH NASH KIRBY 1879 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 37 40
However, I can't see marriages for either Ellen or Hannah "
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