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18 Jun 2012 19:44 |
BAILEY, John [1803 - 1830>]
BAILEY John 1803 - 1830> The son of John and Grace BAILEY (n?e BEDFORD), John was baptised at Preston Capes on 27 Mar 1803. He was employed as a farm labourer and married Charlotte HARDMAN by banns at Preston Capes on 18 Sep 1823. Parents BAILEY, John 1769 - 1852 [View] BEDFORD, Grace ] [View] BAILEY, John [1826 - 1827] [View] BAILEY, Ann [1827 - 1830>] [View] BAILEY, Jane [1830 - 1830>] [View]
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18 Jun 2012 15:25 |
That is probably because they did not register the child with a middle name...then at a later date either the parents or child added one...maybe after the baptism?
My grandmother added two middle names when she married believing they were her names...which of course they were not, it was what she was led to believe to be her names and it was only after she managed to get a copy of her birth cert when she was in her 60s she found out what her name was
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18 Jun 2012 15:19 |
It's hit and miss :-) That's confirmed by the existence of middle names on the census that are not detailed in the birth records held on Free BMD.
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18 Jun 2012 14:36 |
I think you will find that freebmd does publish the middle names early on...it is only after 1911 that an initial is used
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18 Jun 2012 14:25 |
Hello Rootgatherer, I missed that actually!!!! I do use Free BMD the issue is, despite my ancestors having the decency to ensure that their children had meaningful middle names (all for my personal benefit of course), Free BMD rarely ever publishes the middle names so early on. So, when a change of geography occurs, it can be a bit tricky if it isn't a local change!
Thanks so much for all the information so far, going back to early than 1800 is presumably very tricky but who was John Bailey of 1803's father and brothers and sisters? I have looked on familysearch.org and I think his name was also John who married Ann Overton, not sure how to identify any brothers, sisters or to clarify that!
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18 Jun 2012 13:08 |
So...... you don't think that it was Harriet Morton?
As I said in that post, the only way to be sure is to buy Bromley's birth certificate.. If Harriett had been married previously it should show on the birth certificate.
Births Jun 1879 Bailey Bromley John Foleshill 6d 515
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18 Jun 2012 13:02 |
Have you tried looking up the marriages ect yourself?
Freebmd is easy enough to use, which you have been told about on your other threads or familysearch for info before 1837
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
https://familysearch.org/
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18 Jun 2012 12:45 |
What was the maiden name of Harriet born 1839 who married Charles Bailey born 1840?
Thanks :-)
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18 Jun 2012 09:56 |
Name: Sarah Bailey Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Aug 1836 Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN,RUGBY,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 28 Dec 1834 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Bailey Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Charlote Hardman <<<<<<<< Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07739-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 0825431 (RG4 2978) Reference Number:
Name: John Bailey Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Sep 1847 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT GEORGE,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 24 Oct 1846 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Bailey Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Charlotte Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04178-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 588400, 588401 Reference Number:
Name: Thomas Bailey Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Aug 1836 Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN,RUGBY,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 21 Jul 1836 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Bailey Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Charlote Hardman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07739-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 0825431 (RG4 2978) Reference Number:
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18 Jun 2012 09:49 |
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Marriages Sep 1865 Bailey Charles Birmingham 6d 49 <<<<<<<<< Hewin Annie Birmingham 6d 49 Morton Harriet Birmingham 6d 49 <<<<<<<<< Salisbury Edward Birmingham 6d 49
Bromley's birth certificate will confirm his mother's maiden surname.
Births Jun 1879 Bailey Bromley John Foleshill 6d 515
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18 Jun 2012 07:04 |
Harriet Morgan Bayley event: Christening event date: 20 Jan 1877 event place: Newbold-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England father: Charles Wesley Bayley mother: Harriet Bayley digital folder number: 4292061
Rose Emma Bayley event: Christening event date: 21 Jan 1877 event place: Newbold-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England father: Charles Wesley Bayley mother: Harriet Bayley digital folder number: 4292061
Beatrice Dulcie Bailey event: Christening event date: 07 Aug 1881 event place: Keresley, Warwickshire, England father: Charles Wesley Bailey mother: Harriet Bailey digital folder number: 4292034
Charles Herbert Bailey gender: Male baptism/christening date: 10 Nov 1872 baptism/christening place: NEWBOLD ON AVON,WARWICK,ENGLAND father's name: Charles Bailey mother's name: Harriet indexing project (batch) number: C04562-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 555375, 576942
Laura Lizzie Bailey gender: Female baptism/christening date: 18 Sep 1870 baptism/christening place: NEWBOLD ON AVON,WARWICK,ENGLAND father's name: Charles Bailey mother's name: Harriet indexing project (batch) number: C04562-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 555375, 576942
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18 Jun 2012 06:55 |
Hello
baptism
Bromley John Bailey Parish: Keresley and Coundon Baptism Date: 7 Aug 1881 Father's Name: Charles Wesley Bailey Mother's name: Harriet Bailey
birth NAME: Charles Wesley Bailey BIRTH: Oct 1839 - Rugby, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
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18 Jun 2012 03:45 |
Also who was John Bailey born 1803's parents, did he have brothers and sisters and where were they from?
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18 Jun 2012 03:27 |
Hello, thanks for that, what was the maiden name of Charlotte born 1801 who married John Bailey born 1803? They were born in the Rugby/wider Warwickshire area?
What was the maiden name of Harriet born 1839 who married Charles Bailey born 1840?
Thanks :-)
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18 Jun 2012 02:09 |
1841 Possible for Bromleys father Charles
redefine current search back to search resultsback to search results Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image BAILEY, John M 38 1803 VIEW BAILEY, Charlotte F 40 1801 Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Betsy F 17 1824 VIEW BAILEY, Ann F 14 1827 VIEW BAILEY, Jane F 11 1830 VIEW BAILEY, John M 9 1832 VIEW BAILEY, Willim M 8 1833 VIEW BAILEY, Sarah F 6 1835 Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Thos M 4 1837 Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Rebecca F 3 1838 Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Charles M 1 1840 Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Harriet F 0 (2 months) 1841 Warwickshire VIEW CHMABERLAIN, Richd M 15 1826 VIEW Piece: 1137 Book/Folio: 15/4 Page: 2 Registration District: Rugby Civil Parish: Newbold on Avon Municipal Borough: Address: Long Lawford, Newbold On Avon, Long Lawford County: Warwickshire redefine current search back to search resultsback to search results © brightsolid online publishing ltd Top
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18 Jun 2012 01:48 |
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Name Relation Condition / Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image BAILEY, Laura Head Single F 39 1872 Housekeeper Long Lawford Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Herbert Brother Single M 37 1874 Milkseller Long Lawford Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Bromley Brother Single M 31 1880 Printer Compositor Withybrook Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Dulcie Sister Single F 29 1882 Coundon Warwickshire VIEW NURSE, Eveline Boarder Single F 27 1884 Dressmaker Coventry Warwickshire VIEW OLDHAM, Mary Visitor Widow F 71 1840 Long Lawford Warwickshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18541 Reference: RG14PN18541 RG78PN1111 RD390 SD2 ED3 SN34 Registration District: Coventry Sub District: Holy Trinity Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Coventry Address: 9 Trinity Terrace Radford Coventry County: Warwickshire
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18 Jun 2012 01:46 |
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image BAILEY, Charles W Head Married M 60 1841 Farm Bailiff Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Harriett Wife Married F 59 1842 Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Laura L Daughter Single F 30 1871 Dressmaker Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Herbert C Son Single M 28 1873 Milkman Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Hattie Daughter Single F 24 1877 Photographer's Assistt Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Bromley J Son Single M 22 1879 Printer's Compositor Withybrook, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Dulcie B Daughter Single F 19 1882 Milliner's Assistant Coundon, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 2910 Folio: 83 Page: 14 Registration District: Coventry Civil Parish: Coventry Municipal Borough: Address: Hill Farm, Radford, Coventry County: Warwickshire
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18 Jun 2012 01:44 |
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BAYLEY, Charles Weslley Head Married M 48 1843 Manager Of Farm Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW BAYLEY, Harriet Wife Married F 48 1843 Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW BAYLEY, Laura Daughter Single F 20 1871 Dressmaker Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW BAYLEY, Herbert Son Single M 18 1873 Milkman Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW BAYLEY, Bromley Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW BAYLEY, Dulcie Daughter Single F 9 1882 Scholar Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW BAYLEY, Hattie Daughter Single F 14 1877 Scholar Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 2455 Folio: 145 Page: 18 Registration District: Coventry Civil Parish: Coventry Holy Trinity Municipal Borough: Coventry Address: Home Farm, Kings Fields, Coventry Holy Trinity, Radford, Coventry County: Warwickshire
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18 Jun 2012 01:40 |
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image BAILEY, Chas Or Chaus W Head Married M 41 1840 Ag Lab Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Harriet Wife Married F 42 1839 Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Laura L Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Herbert C Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Harriet M Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW BAILEY, Bromley J Son Single M 2 1879 Withebrook, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 3055 Folio: 101 Page: 10 Registration District: Meriden Civil Parish: Coundon Municipal Borough: Address: Fillongley Road, Coundon County: Warwickshire
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18 Jun 2012 01:33 |
i'm really sorry - i typed the wrong year of birth a couple of minutes ago - i have edited it and it is now correct.
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