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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Mary A Young
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 275

Hi Josie

Dont put another thread up, stick to this one so that we can keep up with all the info that has already been found

You do need to 'untick' the answered remark you added at 16 Jun 2012 14:12

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Wow Gin that was quick I was about to ask someone to look up something, I didn't think about Elizabeth's baptism as she was baptised in Edinburgh but the birth date is the same. Was there anything else on it?

I am putting another look up thread on in a moment.

Hi Gins
Yep they are the ones, I looked those up years ago on Scotlands People, but never got any further than the 1841 & 1851 census for the siblings.
I found my great grandfather Charles with his parents on the 1861 census but not any of the siblings. His parents died before the 1871 census was taken but I found Charles & his wife on the 1871 & 1881. I often wondered what happened to the siblings till the 1911 census came out and I found his uncle Alexander with one of Charles' sisters.
Because of the help given I have now got the place of birth for his eldest sister, so with a bit of luck and another lookup request I may be able to find out something about their mother's parents.
I'm a happy bunny at the moment, will it last! :-)

Heres Elizabeth' baptisim


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Elizabeth Mary Ann Young
Record Type: Baptism <<King St St Giles
Born Jan 11th 1826
Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1826
Father's Name: Alexander Young <<Painter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Sarah Young
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

1841 Scotland Census
Name: Emily Young
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: Clerk St
Parish Number: 685/2
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Young 45 <<Painter & Glazier
Elisabeth Young 35
Elisabeth Young 15 <<England
Jane Young 13
Emily Young 7
Alexander Young 5
Robert Young 3

Josie


This looks like the family


1851 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth M A Young
Name: Elizabeth M A Young
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander Young
Mother's name: Elizabeth Young
Gender: Female
Where born: England
Parish Number: 685/2
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 75 Clerk St
Occupation: Dressmaker
ED: 66
Page: 26 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 125
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_183
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Young 55
Elizabeth Young 46
Emily Juba Young 25
Alexander Young 17
Robert Young 15
Charles Young 9
Elizabeth M A Young 25

I have reviewed everything and yes this is the same Alexander on all census. Plus with some of his sisters, that is great.

Checking my records, I realise that I knew his eldest sister was born somewhere in England, but was baptised in Scotland, so her birth area is another great find. And maybe a clue to where their mother came from.

Many thanks again

Thanks again for the 1871 and 1881 ones will check those out but looks right.

625pal, not sure what that is so will look that up in a mo.

once again :-) all round

Many thanks all.
I have already seen the 1911 image and that is him at his niece Charlotte's. That was a great find as I hadn't managed to find him or his siblings (apart from my great grandfather) since the Scottish 1851 census.
Elizabeth on the 1891 & 1901 census is his sister although she was born in Edinburgh but the age is right. so another great find.

Many thanks all again :-)

1901:
Alexander Young 66 Scotland Middlesex Hornsey Artist & Engraver On Wood
Phobe Young 64 Surrey Ldn Middlesex Hornsey (Phoebe?)

See website http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kosmoid&id=I4158

•ID: I4158
•Name: Frederick James SIMPSON
•Given Name: Frederick James
•Surname: Simpson
•Sex: M
•Birth: 12 DEC 1856 in Portobello,Midlothian
•Death: AFT 1916
•Note:
Very musical. Educated at Edinburgh Academy, Leipsic, Berlin. Took musical degree, Oxford, 1885. Professional work in and near London.

A member of the Musical Association in 1891-2 --see
http://jrma.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/issue_pdf/frontmatter_pdf/18/1.pdf
1881 Census
Dwelling: Selville
Census Place: Duddingston, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source:FHL Film 0223988 GRO Volume 684-1 ED 13 Page 23
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MarrAgeSexBirthplace
Theresa C. SIMPSON U 43 F England Rel:Daur (Head) Occ:Teacher Of Singing
F. James SIMPSON . .U 24 M Portobello, Edinburgh,Scot Rel:Son Occ:TeacherOfMusic
Jessie WOOD . . . . . .U 24 F Pentcaitland, Haddington, Sc Rel:Serv Occ:Servant Cook Do
Christina WOOD . . . .U 21 F Pentcaitland, Haddington, Scotland Rel:Serv Occ:Servant Housemaid

Dwelling: Selville Cottage Census Place: Duddingston, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0223988 GRO Ref Volume 684-1 EnumDist 13 Page 23
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . MarrAgeSexBirthplace
Elizabeth M. YOUNG U 54 F England Rel:Head Occ:Engraver On Wood
Emily I. YOUNG . . . U 46 F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel:Sister Occ: Reto Engraver On Wood
Alexander YOUNG U 44 M Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel:Brother Occ: Engraver On Wood
•Change Date: 21 OCT 2006 at 22:43:25

NOT related to me

1871 Scotland Census
about Alexander Young
Name: Alexander Young
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration number: 685/2
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Mary
County: Midlothian
Address: 17 London St
Occupation: Engraver On Wood
ED: 43
Household schedule number: 43
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_159
Household Members: Name Age
Elizah Young 63
Earle Young 37 <<Sister
Alexander Young 35
Catherine Mina 14 <<Servant
William F Fulerton <<Lodger


1881 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander Young
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh, Midlothian
Registration number: 684/1
Registration district: Duddingston Portobello
Civil parish: Duddingston
County: Midlothian
Address: Selville Cottage
Occupation: Engraver On Wood
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 126
Line: 23
Roll: cssct1881_278
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth M Young 54 <<Head
Emily J Young 46 <<<Sister
Alexander Young 44

Could this be him in 1911

EDWARDS, Archibald John Head Married M 41 1870 Accountant To Limited Company Cranleigh Surrey VIEW
EDWARDS, Charlotte Emily Wife Married14 years F 39 1872 Edinburgh Newington Parish VIEW
EDWARDS, Archibald Charles Son M 12 1899 St Mary Stoke Newington VIEW
EDWARDS, John Athelstan Son M 10 1901 St Mary Stoke Newington VIEW
EDWARDS, George Frederick Brother Single M 31 1880 Bank Clerk Slenfold Sussex VIEW
YOUNG, Alexander Visitor Single M 75 1836 Retired Trinity Edenburgh VIEW
G IRE, Suzie Elizabeth Visitor Married4 years F 43 1868 Liberton Midlothian VIEW
WYLES, Alice Servant Single F 15 1896 St Peters Parish Hereford VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 3544 Reference: RG14PN3544 RG78PN132 RD40 SD3 ED9 SN71 Registration District: Kingston Sub District: Surbiton Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Surbiton Address: Stormont Hook Road Surbiton County: Surrey

1901 census transcription details for: 2, Northwood Road, Hornsey

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1243
Folio: 84
Page: 1
Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Hornsey
Parish: Hornsey
Enum. District: 40
Ecclesiastical District: Highgate St Augustine
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 2, Northwood Road, Hornsey
County: Middlesex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
YOUNG, Alexander Head Single M 66 1835 Artist & Engraver On Wood
Scotland
YOUNG, Elizabeth Sister Single F 75 1826 Living On Own Means
St Giles, London

EDIT - Elizabeth is described as his sister on this record.

Kath., x

1891 census transcription details for: 2, Northwood Road, Hornsey

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1061
Folio: 19
Page: 31
Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Hornsey
Parish: Hornsey
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 2, Northwood Road, Hornsey
County: Middlesex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

YOUNG, Alexander Lodger Married M 56 1835 Engraver On Wood
Scotland
YOUNG, Elizabeth M Wife Married F 65 1826
St Giles, Middlesex

Kath. x

1891 England Census
Name: Alexander Young
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Northwood rd

Occupation: Engraver on wood

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1061
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Ernos Smith 36
Rebecca Smith 37
Mabel Smith 11
Manuel Smith 9
Alexander Young 56
Elizabeth M Smith 65


1901 England Census
Name: Alexander Young
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Highgate St Augustine
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Edmonton <<<smae address as above
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 1243
Folio: 84
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Young 66 <<<Artist & Engraver wood
Elizabeth Young 75 <<Sister

I am not having a good day, had my credits deducted but either blank image or wrong image came up. Please would someone be kind enough to look up Alexander Young born 1835 Scotland, he would be in the Hornsey area on the 1891 and 1901 census. Many thanks.