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International Look Up - William Bond Risk USA

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Christopher

Christopher Report 16 Jun 2012 14:02

Thanks - his family were also rich - i have found him in 1930 - in Orange county - down as a famer

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jun 2012 12:35

Christopher, the tree on Ancestry means that someone was researching Florence Mauzy, they have made no connection to the Risks.

Regarding the "deaf, dumb and blind" that is a column that would have an entry if it were applicable. In the case of your families it is not. (Look at the actual census as per mgnv's links).

It was the Mauzy family that I was referring to as not being poor.

Nothing at all unusual about taking wife back to the ranch if he was working there again - a family business. For some reason, many Americans migrate south to retire.

Christopher

Christopher Report 16 Jun 2012 12:24

Marie - re the tree on ancestry - does that mean someone has been looking at this family?

mgnv - could you look at this post from me - http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/general_chat/thread/1301985

am i missing something is the an easier way of tracking this lot down

Christopher

Christopher Report 16 Jun 2012 11:37

Many thanks:

Just some clarification for Marie - what i am saying is that he lived on the farm/ranch with his brothers and sisters, marries at 48 - then goes back with his wife to the farm/rnch - then with his wife heads on down to orange county.

Re the ref to Northern Ireland - they were Presb and probably did not want to be associated with Eire - indeed they were probably born 5-10km from the border.

mgnv

mgnv Report 16 Jun 2012 09:40

You can search the US censuses, etc., using the appropriate collection here:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES

For 1870, 1900, 1940 you can click on link to left of transcription to get image.
CA 1940 is not completely transcribed (99% done), nor indexed.
It takes at least a week after the transcription's finished for them to build the searchable index and link up the appropriate image, so it'll be a couple of weeks yet for that.
(One could browse thru the images by hand now, but that's a real pain.)

The blind, deaf stuff is just headers with answers left untranscribed, so who knows from that if they're disabled from that.


For the missing imagers (excl 1890 - totally burned for CA), magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel181#page/n538/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel222#page/n574/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu124unit#page/n453/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu151unit#page/n594/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po0109unit#page/n1371/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po0109unit#page/n1371/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus0084unit#page/n65/mode/1up

Note - In 1930 (i.e., after partition) the enumerator was to distinguish which Ireland was their p.o.b.
Both James and William say N Ireland, which does rather exclude Donegal as their pob.

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 22:06

Re the poor bit - interestingly - the reason i am chasing the risk family is that i suspect that didi my great great grandmother out of her inheritance in donegal in 1855

long complicated (yet to be fully uncovered ) story.

dont worry - just doing it out of interest not some mad revenge trip

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 21:59

hi

going back to the 1880 census - what is the deaf and dumb bit/disabled?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Jun 2012 21:24

Looks likely:

Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959

groom: Silas H Mauzy
bride: Eliza J Ross
date of license: 14 Sep 1863
county of license: Rush
date of marriage: 15 Sep 1863
place of marriage: , Rush,
film number: 1630190
digital folder number: 4168329
image number: 00089
number of images: 1

Source Citation
"Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XXFZ-HJW : accessed 15 June 2012), Silas H Mauzy, 1863.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Jun 2012 21:14

There's an undocumented tree on Ancestry that has Florence as the daughter of Silas Mauzy and Lydia Ross.

This is a possible:

1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Silas H Mauzy
Age in 1870: 39
Birth Year: abt 1831
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1870: Rushville, Rush, Indiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Rushville
Value of real estate: $4,000, Personal Estate $19,500

Household Members:
Name Age
Silas H Mauzy 39 < Hardware Merchant
Eliza Y Mauzy 26
Elmer Mauzy 5
Florence Mauzy 4
Lema Mauzy 2
Mary Mauzy 1/12
Jane Loolen 23

They certainly weren't poor!!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Jun 2012 21:10

The distances involved aren't very much really, around 30 miles Vallejo to San Francisco.

I think then, as now, Americans were used to travelling greater distances.

Gee

Gee Report 15 Jun 2012 21:08

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Florence M Risk
Name: Florence M Risk
[Florence M Mauzy]
Social Security #: 0
Sex: Female
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1865
Birthplace: Indiana
Death Date: 18 Sep 1951
Death Place: Orange
Mother's Maiden Name: Ross
Father's Surname: Mauzy

Gee

Gee Report 15 Jun 2012 21:00

What do you mean back at home with his wife, hes with her in 1920/1930?

1900 United States Federal Census
about William B Risk
Name: William B Risk
Age: 37
Birth Date: Jan 1863
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1900: Vallejo, Sonoma, California
[Sonoma]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1870
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David R Risk 45
James C Risk 43
William B Risk 37
Josaphine Risk 29
Mattie M Risk 26
Thomas White 12


1910 United States Federal Census
Name: William B Risk
Age in 1910: 48
Birth Year: 1862
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1910: Vallejo, Sonoma, California
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1879
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Florence Risk
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William B Risk 48
Florence Risk 44


1880 United States Federal Census
about William B. Risk
Name: William B. Risk
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1861
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1880: Vallejo, Sonoma, California
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: James C. Risk
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's name: Sarah Risk
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Works On Farm
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
James C. Risk 56
Sarah Risk 49
David R. Risk 26
James C. Risk 24
William B. Risk 19
Lizzie Mc C. Risk 17
Jane H. Risk 15
Nancy C. Risk 13
Sarah M. Risk 11
Josaphine B. Risk 9
Martha M. Risk 7


Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 20:56

suspect she may have been living there

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 20:55

There s a newspaper ref

http://cbsrfs.ucr.edu/batches/batch_ca_20070216_llano/sn85066387/00175047918/1908082901/0553.pdf

EISK—MACZY—In this city, August 27, 1908,
!>r
the Rev. Samuel C. -Patterson, pastor
bethany cfcurch, William Bond Risk of Petaluma «»d Florence Mauzy of San Francisco.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Jun 2012 20:42

Christopher, I think you may be reading the census dates out of sequence!

He marries her in 1908 and is with her on the 1910, 1920 and 1930 ......

Where does San Francisco come into it (do you have a definite record for their marriage)? It's just that there was also a William Bond of roughly the same age in San Francisco but I think he wasn't yours, that one was a stevedore.

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 20:39

Profuse apologies - I meant to say - he marries her aged 48 in san Francisco then goes back to the family home with his brothers an sisters - then is down south.

Just strange

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Jun 2012 20:33

Christopher - you said he married her in 1908 so the 1910 census would surely be the first one he would be with her?

If 1908 is the correct marriage year then she would have been around 42 so they quite possibly didn't have children together.

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 20:24

ah - found him in 1910 back at home with his wife - so why does he leave i wonder

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 20:24

ah - found him in 1910 back at home with his wife - so why does he leave i wonder

Christopher

Christopher Report 15 Jun 2012 20:21

so does all this mean no kids?