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Just read through all your posts again!! I had family decend on me and hav'nt been on the pooter much over the last couple of weeks.

It just seems funny that one passenger lists states that all the family was born in Somerset whereas in actual fact it seems that Florence was'nt but born in Winnipeg.

As too tomato juice getting rid of the smell of skunk........I would'nt know about that.

Whoops - just seen Margee's already posted this

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1906-008692
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: LANE
Given Names: FLORENCE MARY
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 27/12/1905
PLACE OF BIRTH DETAILS
Place of Birth: WINNIPEG
OTHER PARTICULARS
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
MOTHER'S DETAILS
Maiden Last Name: JOHNS Given Names: BEATRICE MARY


I've often wondered if washing yourself in tomato juice really did get rid of the smell of skunk if you got yourself sprayed.

Don't worry, Mel, most of us don't understand mgnv"s posts. He's such a wealth of information but doesn't realize that the rest of us are just mere mortals.

Tomatoes aren't even in bloom yet, Gins, but I think by August I'll be able to have a bath in tomato juice. Hmm! Wonder whether that's good for the skin?

Love the avatar, Gins, can you tell us anything about it?

Mel - I got muddled too, so I just posted what stuff I'd found. What bits are relevant, I'll leave to others to sort out.

It was the marriage for Doris that showed the mothers name as Jennings and Margee posted the birth for Flo Mary Lane - mothers name Johns!

Now go and get a cuppa and put yer feet up!

You need to get the birth certs for Joseph & Beatrice, we need their full birth date


PS Before you do that.......where is the birth for Beatrice Mary Johns????? :-S :-S

Well I am completely muddled :-( :-( :-(

I have been trying to find Beatrice Mary Lane coming back into England but I can't find anything.

Joseph John Lane's grandmother was just as elusive........

Don't understand mgnv's post well only some of it.

Who put up a birth for Kathleen with the mothers name as Constance Jennings and where did it go or am I going completely mad now???? and dreamt it................................. :-S

Mel

I cant a birth in Somerset for Beatrice M Johns?????

1906 Census Page Data
District: MB Winnipeg District (#10)
Subdistrict: 05 E (Ward five) Page 60
8 461 Lane Joseph Head M M 28
9 461 Lane Constance Wife F M 26
10 461 Lane Doris Daughter F S 2
11 461 Lane May Daughter F S Dec 27
[addy=373 Jarvis - just a few blocks W of Main & just N of the railroad marshalling yards - looks like it's now replaced by the RB Russell Vocational School. All but May immig 1904]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e049/e001206532.pdf

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / British Columbia / Vancouver / 36 Vancouver City / page 23
3 237 Lane Joseph M Head M Jul 1885 26
4 237 Lane Constant F Wife M Jan 1880 30
5 237 Lane Doris F Daughter S Dec 1903 7
6 237 Lane Florance F Daughter S Dec 1906 5
7 237 Lane Kathleen F Daughter S Jan 1911 5/12
[addy=2946 St Catherines - 2km E of city hall]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001941418.pdf

Try look ups at:
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-208D02F/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths
NB Kathleen's pob=BC so birth record private until 2032


Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
1920 http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu106unit#page/n492/mode/1up
[addy=5650 Sunset Blvd immig=1916 has filed initial naturalization papers wife=Janne pob=OH (Janne now an alien) a=43]
I don't think it's our guy

http://archive.org/stream/torontodirec192100midiuoft#page/992/mode/1up
Doris F Lane is a saleslady at Simpsons addy=12 Roseheath Ave - it's a turning to S off Danforth, 2 long blks (500m) W of Woodbine]

http://archive.org/stream/torontodirec192100midiuoft#page/962/mode/1up
Earl Judge is a clerk and dad=Bernard is a carpenter addy=117 Oak -it's a blk N of Dundas, just W of Don

1911 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002025657.pdf
1901S1 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z003/z000105857.pdf
1901S2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z003/z000105950.pdf
[P5L2 has misplaced entry - it's on L50, addy=117 Oak St. Nellie pob=Q=Quebec]

Mel

Margee found a birth in Ca for Florence Mary Lane, not the same Florence that was born in England and died in 1911 Ca....keep up woman ;-)

I'm pretty sure the Joseph that I posted with three different wives is the same one (your man) the question is......why the three different names for the wife?

Maybe Beatrice just changed her name or went back to the UK and Joseph either married again or just lived with the other two?

Margee, send over those toms please....yum yum :-D

Edit: Oh hang on....he's still a florist in 1926 so dont think its the same person as the Joseph who was an auditor/accountant?

Just found this.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Joseph Lane
Name: Joseph Lane
Birth Date: abt 1872
Age: 54
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1926
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Ascania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ascania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 120826

This is definately our man as he is down as a Florist.

Morning All,

Gins if Florence died in 1911 aged 5 there would'nt be a marriage for her???

Margee you will have to sell some of your toms at the gate!!!

Joseph John Lane had a florist shop in Leyton before that he was a Seedsman.

Can anyone please find a marriage between Joseph John Lane and Constance Jennings or the death of Beatrice lane nee Johns.

Thanks

Sorry for the delay, Gins, been out iin the garden planting tomato plants, 30 of 'em! What am I going to do with so many tomatoes?

Can't find any Lane/Arata marriage.

Other half is calling me to help with the new pond!!!! Have to go....

Will call back in later and thanks to everyone. x

Back but only for a min..

Flip that is the marriage we have 1903 for Beatrice and Joseph.

I am wondering now if Gins Joseph and Constance is right.

We have the passenger list for the family of Joseph, Beatrice and the two children and the one with just Beatrice and Doris. Jo and Beatrice were supposidly both born Somerset England but West Ham is Essex and I don't think that is Doris's birth but you can never tell. Unless we buy the cert.

Can anyone find a death for Beatrice to see if Joseph remarried please? as the children seem to be right.

?? Marriages Mar 1903 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hobbs George Long Ashton 5c 956
Johns Beatrice Mary Long Ashton 5c 956 <<<<<<<<<<
Lane Joseph John Long Ashton 5c 956 <<<<<<<<<
Pratley Alice Long Ashton 5c 956

Would tie in with the birth posted by Margee, and Doris's birth?

Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LANE Doris Lucy W. Ham 4a 390

I wonder if this is Florence Mary Lane (Mary)

Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008
Name: Florence Mar Arata
Age: 76
Birth Date: 27 Dec 1905
Death Date: 8 Jan 1982
Death Place: Washington
Spouse: Angllo
Certificate: 82-01744

Social Security Death Index
Name: Florence Arata
SSN: 569-10-0173
Last Residence: 97062 Tualatin, Washington, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 27 Dec 1905
Died: Jan 1982
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)


Margee would you mind checking out a possible marriage for Lane/Arata please :-) I cant see anything in the US, maybe Canada?

Michigan Passenger and Crew Lists, 1903-1965
Name: Earl Bernard Judge <<<Sales man
Arrival Date: 23 Oct 1945
Port of Arrival: Port Huron, Michigan
Last Resided: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Age: 48
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1897
Birth Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Nationality: Canada
Record Type: Card

Wife Doris Lucy

1911 Census of Canada
Name: Earl Judge
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 13
Birth Date: Aug 1897
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Bunard Judge
Mother's Name: Zellie Judge
Tribal: Irish
Province: Ontario
District: Toronto East
District Number: 125
Sub-District: Ward 2
Sub-District Number: 21
Place of Habitation: 119 Oak St
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bunard Judge 37
Zellie Judge 32
Earl Judge 13
Frank Judge 10
Ralph Judge 9
Walter Judge 1

Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008
Name: Doris Lucy Judge
Age: 98
Birth Date: 1903
Death Date: 3 Sep 2001
Death Place: Lincoln
Spouse: Earl

Social Security Death Index
Name: Doris L. Judge
SSN: 572-34-6287
Last Residence: 97367 Lincoln City, Lincoln, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 17 Dec 1903
Died: 3 Sep 2001
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008
Name: Earl Bernard Judge
Age: 90
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1897
Death Date: 5 Nov 1987
Death Place: Marion
Spouse: Doris
Certificate: 87-20390

Graves are on 'Find A Grave'

Social Security Death Index
Name: Constance Lane
SSN: 542-52-5091
Last Residence: 97325 Aumsville, Marion, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 27 Jan 1880
Died: Jan 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (1962)

Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008
Name: Constance Mar Lane
Age: 94
Birth Date: Jan 1880
Death Date: 11 Jan 1974
Death Place: Marion
Spouse: Joseph
Certificate: 74-00770

Social Security Death Index
Name: Joseph Lane
SSN: 540-18-2917
Last Residence: 97202 Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 24 Mar 1878
Died: Jul 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)



The plot thickens!



U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 (World Archives Project)
Name: Joseph John Lane <<Cashier
Age: 41
Birth Date: 2 Jul 1876 born Sidcot England
Birth Location: England
Spouse: Jeanne ?????????
Arrival Year: 1916
Issue Date: 27 Mar 1918
State: California
Locality, Court: Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California, District Court
Record Type: Declaration of Intention

Previous place of residence: Vanc BC